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[stonemonkey]

The green flag was being waved when Massa passed it 7 seconds after the yellow flag was first waved partially obscured from the exit of the last corner by a wall.

[Jensonb]

'Oh grow up. Massa couldn't possibly have seen the yellow until after the final turn since it was only waving in a partially obstructed place after the exit.'

Errm.... that's exactly what I was trying to show. which is why I also show that there's actually a green flag waving at the time Massa passed it.

Not you, the OP

Look you guys, aside form the confusion with the flags (Yellows and greens being shown, yellow one waved in semi-obscured position), there was no danger on the track, Sato was well out of harm's way by then and slowing down onto the straight is in itself a hazard - there were no flags before or during the final turn warning oncoming traffic of the hazard, so they would have been surprised by a slow moving Massa.

[bmwpower]

Thats the weakest argument I've ever seen, shame on you.

NO THIS IS THE WEAKEST ARGUMENT

by chs on Sat Apr 05, 2008 11:24 pm

FORZA FERRARI

[AKR]

Q2. Waved yellows, Massa keeps his foot down, no penalty. Someone should explain to Villnerve why FIAt are allowed to get away with it but no one else.
Its not a rule open to interpretation as far as I know. Massa should have gone again or dropped out of the top ten.
This is not another conspiracy theory, but how long can this stuff go on for? Sick of it and even FIAt must get embarresed

Umm sorry if anyone has broken the rules it is called a team by the name of FERRARI. Not Fiat. For the one millionth time Fren, GET IT RIGHT!

[texasmr2]

Look you guys, aside form the confusion with the flags (Yellows and greens being shown, yellow one waved in semi-obscured position), there was no danger on the track, Sato was well out of harm's way by then and slowing down onto the straight is in itself a hazard - there were no flags before or during the final turn warning oncoming traffic of the hazard, so they would have been surprised by a slow moving Massa.

The voice of reason and logic finally speak's, well done .

[Mikep99]

Oh grow up. Massa couldn't possibly have seen the yellow until after the final turn since it was only waving in a partially obstructed place after the exit. The danger was well off to the other side of the track and Massa was on a straight. It's not a big deal.

What Bulls**t. its a clear infraction, or do we now allow teams and drivers to interpret the rules themselves. "Sorry Guv, just did'nt seeit". Anyone could see the damn flags they where waving like a carnival. From what I watched Massa and his team did not even seem to ask the question, they sat in the pits with a "job done" look about them. Waved yellows should not be ignored at any time for any reason. "I did'nt see it" is no excuse.

What time is it boy’s and girls. BOZO time

[texasmr2]

What time is it boy’s and girls. BOZO time

No poo good call! The short yellow bus has just pulled into the station and once again the driver has taken the wrong route?

[phren]

And again we see the FIAt alliance of FIA/Ferrari/Mosely/Ecclestone clearly demonstrate thier contempt for race fans and F1 itself. And the FIAt supporters could care less.

[Mikep99]

And again we see the FIAt alliance of FIA/Ferrari/Mosely/Ecclestone clearly demonstrate thier contempt for race fans and F1 itself. And the FIAt supporters could care less.

BOZO has spoken so it must be FACT

[chs]

FORZA FERRARI

[AKR]

And again we see the FIAt alliance of FIA/Ferrari/Mosely/Ecclestone clearly demonstrate thier contempt for race fans and F1 itself. And the FIAt supporters could care less.

You know what Fren, you have just said that F1 is all about Ferrari . Well done. FIA/Ferrari/Mosley/Ecclestone alliance. It says the fact doesn't it. Oh and although I do believe that Max Mosley is a dirty old man, I couldn't care less if he stayed on as FIA president after all of this. The reason is obvious. And with the so called Massa incident and nothing being done, well I couldn't care less about it either. Once again its better for F1 that Ferrari wins and not Mercedes oops I mean McLaren so who cares if the rules are bent. Maybe Ron Dennis should just step down so then Mercedes will be allowed to win again.

[AKR]

FORZA FERRARI

AGREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ferrari man 009]

Q2. Waved yellows, Massa keeps his foot down, no penalty. Someone should explain to Villnerve why FIAt are allowed to get away with it but no one else.
Its not a rule open to interpretation as far as I know. Massa should have gone again or dropped out of the top ten.
This is not another conspiracy theory, but how long can this stuff go on for? Sick of it and even FIAt must get embarresed

A. It was in Q1 that the supposed infringememt was made and B. he was 0.8 secs ahead of second after sector 2 and 0.8 ahead after sector 3 which is mainly 2 straights , so he didn't gain much on the rest in the last sector - despite the fact that he was 3 kilometres per hou faster than his own teamate down the straight , then i think he lifted slightly. if he had his foot flat to the floor , he could have got a 1 min 31.7 or 1 min 31.8 . instead he got a 1 min 31.9


My verdict , Not Guilty

[Ferrari man 009]

And again we see the FIAt alliance of FIA/Ferrari/Mosely/Ecclestone clearly demonstrate thier contempt for race fans and F1 itself. And the FIAt supporters could care less.

If that is the case , then why was raikkonen not allowed to complete qualifying in australlia if the fia and ferrari work together . what you're saying is absolute rubbish.

[bud]

And again we see the FIAt alliance of FIA/Ferrari/Mosely/Ecclestone clearly demonstrate thier contempt for race fans and F1 itself. And the FIAt supporters could care less.

You know what Fren, you have just said that F1 is all about Ferrari . Well done. FIA/Ferrari/Mosley/Ecclestone alliance. It says the fact doesn't it. Oh and although I do believe that Max Mosley is a dirty old man, I couldn't care less if he stayed on as FIA president after all of this. The reason is obvious. And with the so called Massa incident and nothing being done, well I couldn't care less about it either. Once again its better for F1 that Ferrari wins and not Mercedes oops I mean McLaren so who cares if the rules are bent. Maybe Ron Dennis should just step down so then Mercedes will be allowed to win again.

AKR its apparent youre not a "sporting" fan as such and that you just use sporting teams in soccer and F1 for example as nothing more than the old human trait of tribalism. Getting emotion from your tribe winning and not caring about the actual sport itself for a true sporting fan wouldnt just push aside the things you have just done

as for Massa not seeing the flags they have LED lights inside the cockpit to notify the drivers so saying they didnt see the flag is no excuse now.