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[What's Burning?]

It boiled down to us having mutual dislike for each other. I just happened to have a little more tolerance, he was a smug prick. Sorry Sagi, not all teachers inspire their students.

[operaman]

And in today's world which of those skill sets are more beneficial to the person and the community in general? I know which I encourage in the kids in my class!!!

The mistake you are making, is that you are preparing your students for today's world by encouraging skillsets that apply to today. Today's world will not likely exist tomorrow.

[operaman]

Maybe you could explain to us in simple English ....

I wondering if you could explain in simple English where you get the time to write your "War and Peace" posts so regularly - are you really J K Rowlings?

On the parent company thing, its you and your mate that refer to "Ferrari revenue". I guess it was convenient at the time, but since I pointed out how silly that is, at least you have been smart enough to try and distance yourself from that idea.

On the Yankee/MLB V F1 comparison the distinction is clear, in F1, all fans must purchase the right to view through the commercial rights arm of F1. In MLB the Yankees have the right to sell TV viewing rights to their fans. So there are 2 (two) avenues a fan can choose from.

If a fan can sign up to view through the MBL channels then all the revenue from those MBL negotiated contracts goes to the MBL pool.

If a fan signs up to watch the same game through the Yankees channel, the Yankees contribute 30% to the pool and keep the rest of the revenue.

So, if you and your mate are suggesting that you'd like to give Ferrari the right to sell TV viewing rights to their fans, well, I think thats great and I'm sure Ferrari would accept your plan. Ferrari would offer the rights to their fans and give 30% of that revenue to F1. ANd seeming as you don't think the Tifosi are worth anything but derision, then a) you won't miss them and b) you won't feel that FOM selling their TV rights without the Tifosi will diminish what FOM has to sell.

Another great idea from brilliant idea department that I'm sure Ferrari would accept in a heartbeat

But the difference is striking Spanky. All teams in MLB have exactly the same rights. They can sell their TV rights only for the games not picked up by MLB. That applies to all teams. I'm sure F1 would be happy to allow Ferrari (and any other interested team) to sell the rights for the races not currently covered.

And of course the value of F1 would be lessened by the loss of Ferrari, as MLB would with the loss of the Yankees. The difference is the Yankees in fact realize the importance of the lesser teams and support them financially for the betterment of the sport, whereas Ferrari continue to use their status to blackmail F1 into giving them political power and add to the financial advantages they already enjoy.

[CookinFlat6]

And in today's world which of those skill sets are more beneficial to the person and the community in general? I know which I encourage in the kids in my class!!!

The mistake you are making, is that you are preparing your students for today's world by encouraging skillsets that apply to today. Today's world will not likely exist tomorrow.

Kids always need skills that allow them to see a big picture and visualise complex global organisational structures instead of only a sequential logical convergent style. Todays students are trained in a way that produces compliant workers and soldiers and not divergent thinking entrepreneurs or problem solvers

IMHO

[operaman]

And in today's world which of those skill sets are more beneficial to the person and the community in general? I know which I encourage in the kids in my class!!!

The mistake you are making, is that you are preparing your students for today's world by encouraging skillsets that apply to today. Today's world will not likely exist tomorrow.

Kids always need skills that allow them to see a big picture and visualise complex global organisational structures instead of only a sequential logical convergent style. Todays students are trained in a way that produces compliant workers and soldiers and not divergent thinking entrepreneurs or problem solvers

IMHO

Wow ... big words Dude. Students need a variety of skillsets in anticipation of a changing world, which is exactly what the Canadian system emphasizes. Not all students are alike and thus those skillsets may vary, as the role individuals play in future society also does. In simple terms, teaching students to think and be able to adapt to change is the goal for most. Being able to anticipate change or (even better) initiate change, is for the very few.

[racechick]

And in today's world which of those skill sets are more beneficial to the person and the community in general? I know which I encourage in the kids in my class!!!

The mistake you are making, is that you are preparing your students for today's world by encouraging skillsets that apply to today. Today's world will not likely exist tomorrow.

I prepare them to think for themselves, to question not accept, to create, to problem solve, to innovate, to have a go, to think outside the box, to realise there may not be a ' right' answer; rather than to jump through hoops like a circus pony. That way they will be best equipped to deal with what the world throws at them.

I also try to encourage them to show consideration and tolerance to others and to own up to their mistakes and to try to make 'good choices'.

[CookinFlat6]

I may not be an expert at expressing it. But I do feel that kids who are a bit disruptive and non conformist should be encouraged as much as the ones who do exactly as they are told and conform.
Must be annoying for teachers having amatuers think they have easy answers though

[racechick]

The disruptive, often male, children learn far better ( and equally effectively) outdoors where they are less restricted and can have a hands on approach to all they do. I do it with very young children but it also very effective in older disruptive and special needs children. Great for team building and understanding the need for rules too.
I've recently signed a petition to remove that idiot Michael Grove ( education secretary) from office.

[What's Burning?]

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The problem is that teaching, just like every other profession is subject to the 80/20 rule of life.

[spankyham]

The disruptive, often male, children learn far better ( and equally effectively) outdoors where they are less restricted and can have a hands on approach to all they do. I do it with very young children but it also very effective in older disruptive and special needs children. Great for team building and understanding the need for rules too.
I've recently signed a petition to remove that idiot Michael Grove ( education secretary) from office.

I once read that if you wanted to create the worst possible environment to teach children - it would be a traditional classroom. Funny thing is, all the teachers I admired had one thing in common - they all did their best to morph that environment or to get the kids out whenever they could.

..... and that's my two cents worth

[operaman]

The disruptive, often male, children learn far better ( and equally effectively) outdoors where they are less restricted and can have a hands on approach to all they do. I do it with very young children but it also very effective in older disruptive and special needs children. Great for team building and understanding the need for rules too.
I've recently signed a petition to remove that idiot Michael Grove ( education secretary) from office.

I once read that if you wanted to create the worst possible environment to teach children - it would be a traditional classroom. Funny thing is, all the teachers I admired had one thing in common - they all did their best to morph that environment or to get the kids out whenever they could.

..... and that's my two cents worth

That comment is worth a lot more than 2 cents ......... more like $100 worth.

[operaman]

The disruptive, often male, children learn far better ( and equally effectively) outdoors where they are less restricted and can have a hands on approach to all they do. I do it with very young children but it also very effective in older disruptive and special needs children. Great for team building and understanding the need for rules too.
I've recently signed a petition to remove that idiot Michael Grove ( education secretary) from office.

Teachers understand what needs to be done, as you and Sagi have demonstrated. The problem is that the economics of education is controlled by politicians, who ultimately answer to the taxpayers. Taxpayers (read as voters) fall into 2 categories, it seems. Those who have no children are only interested in the bottom line and those with children are interested in their child's schooling, not the bigger picture. It is too easy to play the special interest groups off against each other for handouts, while sticking with the traditional to appease the accountants. An under-equipped classroom of 30 kids may not be effective in an educational sense, but it is cost effective.

[sagi58]

Kids (and adults) also need the playful teasing teachers Sagi58

The natural default state of a mind for well adjusted humans should be playful, inquisitive and sharing

No!! Really?? Who'da thunk it, eh??

[sagi58]

I made a teacher cry when I was in school

I'm sure they were tears of joy!!

[sagi58]

I made a teacher agree to give me a passing grade if I did not to show up to the class for the remainder of the semester.

Can't imagine you as a little stinker!!

((p.s. I'm betting that was either secondary or post-secondary??))