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By 1Lemon
#384187
So a season where reliability will be an issue....

Engine penalties

Engine penalties are now specified too. The engine is deemed to have 6 components – the internal combustion engine, the motor generator unit-kinetic, the motor generator unit-heat, the energy store, the turbocharger and the control electronics.

Each element may fail 5 times without penalty. The first component to fail for a sixth time will attract a 10 place grid penalty. Then each other component failing a sixth time will merely see a 5 place grid drop applied.

A first component to fail 7 times will attract another 10 place drop, the second component to fail for a 7th time will only see a 5 place grid drop applied – and so on for 8,9,10…..

If the entire power unit fails this will mean the driver starts from the pit lane at the next opportunity.

Finally, should a driver incur more than one grid penalty before he has an opportunity to serve the first, the total number of positions penalised will be added together.

If a driver is unable to drop the necessary places the penalty requires, he will start 22nd at the next race and then drop the remaining places at the following race. It is unclear what would happen if a 3rd and 4th race were required to fulfil the penalty.

Gear box penalties are less lenient in 2014. Each unit must last six races or a 5 place grid penalty will be enforced.
By LRW
#384189
http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/9070579/the-fia-have-announced-a-pole-position-trophy-will-be-introduced-to-f1-in-2014

According to this article above, it seems that the driver numbers will be allocated by ballot, and not by choice.....


I'n not sure why this change of numbering is necessary. Seems like a lame idea to me.


That's rediculous, on his Twitter Bottas asked his followers what number he should pick, and someone suggested BO77AS which he said was his current favourite and might pick 77. I don't see why they wouldn't just let the driver pick...


I agree. Autosport are claiming this is NOT true and the drivers WILL be able to pick.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/111841

Glad to see the FiA are getting their media communications consistent.
By LRW
#384190
So a season where reliability will be an issue....

Engine penalties

Engine penalties are now specified too. The engine is deemed to have 6 components – the internal combustion engine, the motor generator unit-kinetic, the motor generator unit-heat, the energy store, the turbocharger and the control electronics.

Each element may fail 5 times without penalty. The first component to fail for a sixth time will attract a 10 place grid penalty. Then each other component failing a sixth time will merely see a 5 place grid drop applied.

A first component to fail 7 times will attract another 10 place drop, the second component to fail for a 7th time will only see a 5 place grid drop applied – and so on for 8,9,10…..

If the entire power unit fails this will mean the driver starts from the pit lane at the next opportunity.

Finally, should a driver incur more than one grid penalty before he has an opportunity to serve the first, the total number of positions penalised will be added together.

If a driver is unable to drop the necessary places the penalty requires, he will start 22nd at the next race and then drop the remaining places at the following race. It is unclear what would happen if a 3rd and 4th race were required to fulfil the penalty.

Gear box penalties are less lenient in 2014. Each unit must last six races or a 5 place grid penalty will be enforced.


This is retarded.
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By geetface9
#384191
So a season where reliability will be an issue....

Engine penalties

Engine penalties are now specified too. The engine is deemed to have 6 components – the internal combustion engine, the motor generator unit-kinetic, the motor generator unit-heat, the energy store, the turbocharger and the control electronics.

Each element may fail 5 times without penalty. The first component to fail for a sixth time will attract a 10 place grid penalty. Then each other component failing a sixth time will merely see a 5 place grid drop applied.

A first component to fail 7 times will attract another 10 place drop, the second component to fail for a 7th time will only see a 5 place grid drop applied – and so on for 8,9,10…..

If the entire power unit fails this will mean the driver starts from the pit lane at the next opportunity.

Finally, should a driver incur more than one grid penalty before he has an opportunity to serve the first, the total number of positions penalised will be added together.

If a driver is unable to drop the necessary places the penalty requires, he will start 22nd at the next race and then drop the remaining places at the following race. It is unclear what would happen if a 3rd and 4th race were required to fulfil the penalty.

Gear box penalties are less lenient in 2014. Each unit must last six races or a 5 place grid penalty will be enforced.


This is retarded.


Completely!
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By Jabberwocky
#384192
So a season where reliability will be an issue....

Engine penalties

Engine penalties are now specified too. The engine is deemed to have 6 components – the internal combustion engine, the motor generator unit-kinetic, the motor generator unit-heat, the energy store, the turbocharger and the control electronics.

Each element may fail 5 times without penalty. The first component to fail for a sixth time will attract a 10 place grid penalty. Then each other component failing a sixth time will merely see a 5 place grid drop applied.

A first component to fail 7 times will attract another 10 place drop, the second component to fail for a 7th time will only see a 5 place grid drop applied – and so on for 8,9,10…..

If the entire power unit fails this will mean the driver starts from the pit lane at the next opportunity.

Finally, should a driver incur more than one grid penalty before he has an opportunity to serve the first, the total number of positions penalised will be added together.

If a driver is unable to drop the necessary places the penalty requires, he will start 22nd at the next race and then drop the remaining places at the following race. It is unclear what would happen if a 3rd and 4th race were required to fulfil the penalty.

Gear box penalties are less lenient in 2014. Each unit must last six races or a 5 place grid penalty will be enforced.


This is retarded.


I think it is a good idea, well the bit about the "If you can not drop the required amount of positions it moves carries onto the next race" anyway.

I suppose they are worried about a lot of cars failing next year.
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By sagi58
#384217
Even if it seems simple, don'tcha think the stewards will find a way to complicate it, during races? :banghead:
By Big Azza
#384220
I hate changes. That's why I like one driver winning all the time.

Now all these rules are driving me crazy...
By LRW
#384226
I hate changes. That's why I like one driver winning all the time.

Now all these rules are driving me crazy...


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By What's Burning?
#384227
There's something about this that I don't get... So an engine part can be completely replaced but it's not deemed as a penalty? The way the rule is written it's as if instead of there being five engines available for the entirety of the year, it's five components of each for the the entirety of the year and they can be mixed and matched as long as they don't exceed five. After that they begin incurring penalties.
By LRW
#384229
There's something about this that I don't get... So an engine part can be completely replaced but it's not deemed as a penalty? The way the rule is written it's as if instead of there being five engines available for the entirety of the year, it's five components of each for the the entirety of the year and they can be mixed and matched as long as they don't exceed five. After that they begin incurring penalties.


I think you may be right. But to be honest I got confused at at the point they said..... "Engine penalties are now specified too. The engine is deemed to have 6 components –....."
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By Jabberwocky
#384235
Unless a power unit is one sealed item and one of the 6 parts can be changed if it fails.

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By CookinFlat6
#384243
So a season where reliability will be an issue....

Engine penalties

Engine penalties are now specified too. The engine is deemed to have 6 components – the internal combustion engine, the motor generator unit-kinetic, the motor generator unit-heat, the energy store, the turbocharger and the control electronics.

Each element may fail 5 times without penalty. The first component to fail for a sixth time will attract a 10 place grid penalty. Then each other component failing a sixth time will merely see a 5 place grid drop applied.

A first component to fail 7 times will attract another 10 place drop, the second component to fail for a 7th time will only see a 5 place grid drop applied – and so on for 8,9,10…..

If the entire power unit fails this will mean the driver starts from the pit lane at the next opportunity.

Finally, should a driver incur more than one grid penalty before he has an opportunity to serve the first, the total number of positions penalised will be added together.

If a driver is unable to drop the necessary places the penalty requires, he will start 22nd at the next race and then drop the remaining places at the following race. It is unclear what would happen if a 3rd and 4th race were required to fulfil the penalty.

Gear box penalties are less lenient in 2014. Each unit must last six races or a 5 place grid penalty will be enforced.


Webber had better be glad he left. I can see him having to stagger his grid drops over 6 or 7 races to catch up. 'So I start 22nd each race till Silverstone, then I start 18th, and lets hope I dont get any more failures in the meantime' :hehe:
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By Jabberwocky
#384281
Yes. It could get complicated with a few drivers gettomg penalties.



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By acosmichippo
#384320
http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/9070579/the-fia-have-announced-a-pole-position-trophy-will-be-introduced-to-f1-in-2014

According to this article above, it seems that the driver numbers will be allocated by ballot, and not by choice.....


I'n not sure why this change of numbering is necessary. Seems like a lame idea to me.


That's rediculous, on his Twitter Bottas asked his followers what number he should pick, and someone suggested BO77AS which he said was his current favourite and might pick 77. I don't see why they wouldn't just let the driver pick...


I agree. Autosport are claiming this is NOT true and the drivers WILL be able to pick.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/111841


Glad to see the FiA are getting their media communications consistent.


I think by "ballot" they mean drivers submit their preferred numbers, and then the FIA decides who gets what if there are any conflicts. It's not as if people are going to arbitrarily vote on who gets a random number between 2 and 99. That would be silly.

I'm more interested in the long-term strategy of this. How long does a driver get to reserve their number? If they sit out a season, do they lose rights to that number?
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