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By sagi58
#382826
...maybe the Ferrari engine is so stylish and goodlooking they want to maintain that advantage over the rest by hiding it


Generally speaking, no one "hides" anything that is beautiful! :P


Nope! Not a trick question; but, you didn't use any kind of punctuation, nor a little smiley face, which would have been a helpful hint!!
So, I assumed you meant they'd want to hide it at all times, starting with the media!! :P
By CookinFlat6
#382828
I was hoping the hint would be in the idea of a 'stylish and good looking engine'

its not a requirement in the regulations :rofl:
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By sagi58
#382836
I was hoping the hint would be in the idea of a 'stylish and good looking engine'

its not a requirement in the regulations :rofl:


The "hint" is your ever-lasting love for Ferrari!!
To paraphrase: The gentleman doth protest too much, methinks!! :twisted:
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By acosmichippo
#383544
I have a question. Does anyone know why F1 is sticking with heavy batteries for their ERS? Is there any reason they haven't gone with a flywheel system like Williams developed for Audi in LMP1?
#383550
Not that it's the reason, but there has to be considerably less placement flexibility in an F1 car than an LMP or GT car.
By CookinFlat6
#383551
I think it's mainly the size and dimensions, it's all in one instead of spread into elements than can be fit into an F1 car. I remember Williams saying it wasn't aimed at F1. So the electrical capacitor battery stuff can be shaped and placed low down keeping the cog low. Whereas in buses and bodied racing cars you have space higher up. If you got a spinning wheel it's gonna be big.
Porsche raced with a kinetic system in the passenger seat once :yikes:
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Nice little video explaining the 2014 engine functionality, it's not too technical and doesn't go into all of the details but it's a good foundation of the idea behind the technologies in use.
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By 1Lemon
#383973
I think it's mainly the size and dimensions, it's all in one instead of spread into elements than can be fit into an F1 car. I remember Williams saying it wasn't aimed at F1. So the electrical capacitor battery stuff can be shaped and placed low down keeping the cog low. Whereas in buses and bodied racing cars you have space higher up. If you got a spinning wheel it's gonna be big.
Porsche raced with a kinetic system in the passenger seat once :yikes:


Wouldn't want your hand to get stuck in that!
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By spankyham
#384068
Nice little video explaining the 2014 engine functionality, it's not too technical and doesn't go into all of the details but it's a good foundation of the idea behind the technologies in use.


Here's what I got from the video "...... less power ......" :irked:
#384070
You're preaching to the choir. I am an normally aspirated kind of guy. I don't disagree with you, I think 600 Bhp is too little for the engine side of things, but there's just too much efficiency in turbos to ignore and when you think about the progress F1 teams can make when they put their mind to problems, they're doing approximately the same with about 40% less fuel. To me, that's impressive albeit in a different way.
By CookinFlat6
#384072
Agreed Wb. The big interest is in how they invent new and better ways of getting more speed, and more track performance out of less power.

or put in another way how they can make a car with 600BHp go as fast around a track as a car with 1000 BHP. The drive train has to improve, the diffs have to become more effective, the gearboxes better, the oils better, the suspension better
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By spankyham
#384073
You're preaching to the choir. I am an normally aspirated kind of guy. I don't disagree with you, I think 600 Bhp is too little for the engine side of things, but there's just too much efficiency in turbos to ignore and when you think about the progress F1 teams can make when they put their mind to problems, they're doing approximately the same with about 40% less fuel. To me, that's impressive albeit in a different way.


Yep, the efficiency will be impressive, its just I don't watch F1 to see efficiency. Having said that, I'm ok with the turbos, although I'd love to see turbos V na donks.

Deep down, what really worries me is that we will be watching cars over a second a lap slower than they were this year. Yet another step backwards in performance :(
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By NHcheese
#384108
Just putting a qustion out there. Who likes DRS?
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By geetface9
#384115
Nice little video explaining the 2014 engine functionality, it's not too technical and doesn't go into all of the details but it's a good foundation of the idea behind the technologies in use.


Nice vid!! I know nil about engines so that was outstanding for me.

Honestly, I'm not opposed at all to what's happening. Maybe that's because I don't know jack about engines and such. I really can appreciate the need for F1 to stay relevant to the market...just imagine if we had 6 or 7 manufacturers in the series at some point because of the relevancy of the v6's to their markets!!

Just putting a qustion out there. Who likes DRS?


I'm kind of indifferent. I appreciate the passing but it does feel more cheap than in 2010. At the same time, it's not a guarantee...we've all seen cars with DRS enabled still fail to make a pass on a very frequent basis.
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