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[CookinFlat6]

Are confidentiality agreements illegal in the EU?

I think the point here is that Alonsois way too smart to be breaking contractual confidentiality agreements or to be revealing things about the team that gives away normal confidential or information of use to competitors.

If it was just that it would have been dealt with behind the scenes, or he would be sacked for breach of contract

This is a case of Montezemolo making a public point of neutering Alonso's tweets, tweets are updates about a persons current status. In this case Alonso has been playing against Montezemolo and responding to his publicising disciplinary action against El Ponso.

Montezemolo is basically saying I have the power to win this 'tit for tat', whereas Alonso has remained dignified and merely tweeting his feelings about his ability to maximise his potential

Ask yourself this, what secrets as Alonso blurted out so far on twitter that warrants this blanket ban? Has he tweeted telemetry? Details of the new car ? Technical specs? All he is guilty of is giving people the impression the team is a mess and he can do better elsewhere

This is a showdown between El Ponso domenically and Montezemolo

Next year will be a real blast

[Jabberwocky]

I would hope the only reason they don't write books while they're in the military is because they are
busy doing their jobs and don't have time to write volumes?

There is slack built into the system so that if people are on detachment to afgan/iraq etc that the unit that the person is detached from can still operate. If no one is detached there can be a lot of man power sat around. However depending on the detachment you can be so busy you don't have time to have a brew all day

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[Jabberwocky]

However back on topic, if companies don't have secrets then why did Mclaren get fined 100 million for having a book of Ferrari secrets?

I am sure most hi tech firms have confidentiality clause in contracts

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[CookinFlat6]

Enforcing a confidentiality clause is not the same as preventing an employee from tweeting

[racechick]

Companies(f1 teams) do have secrets, but I don't believe Alonso has revealed any of them, he's said how he feels. Or he's said what he knows will annoy Luca, because Luca has annoyed him. I say again, it's a power game. Power politics.
And it's intriguing

[CookinFlat6]

Preventing someone from tweeting is like preventing someone from talking at the pub about what they do during the day

It's not rocket science to see what's going on here

[sagi58]

Everyone chats about work! Everyone chats in public places over dinner / a beer / a coffee, etc.
There is no doubt about that. But, in those environments, there is still some form of "privacy"!
And, that's what I believe is the difference here. No form of social media can be described in
any way as being "private"!

di Montezemolo is "old-school" and probably doesn't get what the big deal is about social media,
so he has made a decision, which he has the right to make. He doesn't want Ferrari business,
in whatever shape or form, to be discussed on the internet/public. Nothing wrong with that.

Alonso is, at the end of the day, an employee and if he is directed by his employer not to post
anything about his employment, then so be it.

This really is nothing more than a tempest in a teacup!!

[What's Burning?]

Everyone chats about work! Everyone chats in public places over dinner / a beer / a coffee, etc.
There is no doubt about that. But, in those environments, there is still some form of "privacy"!
And, that's what I believe is the difference here. No form of social media can be described in
any way as being "private"!

di Montezemolo is "old-school" and probably doesn't get what the big deal is about social media,
so he has made a decision, which he has the right to make. He doesn't want Ferrari business,
in whatever shape or form, to be discussed on the internet/public. Nothing wrong with that.

Alonso is, at the end of the day, an employee and if he is directed by his employer not to post
anything about his employment, then so be it.

This really is nothing more than a tempest in a teacup!!

And how do you then justify the horse whisperer's web site?.

[1Lemon]

di Montezemolo is "old-school" and probably doesn't get what the big deal is about social media,
so he has made a decision, which he has the right to make. He doesn't want Ferrari business,
in whatever shape or form, to be discussed on the internet/public. Nothing wrong with that.

Alonso is, at the end of the day, an employee and if he is directed by his employer not to post
anything about his employment, then so be it.

But does Monte have the right to make that decision? Yes I can and understand being told not to talk about a specific project at work, if for example it's a commercial product that another company might steal; or F1 technical data, but I'm still allowed to tell people I work there and what my role in the company is. I can say "I write code for products" but not what the products do. I can tell people what spec of machine I use to work, or how big my desk is or any other range of stuff, but Alonso now can't do that which is ridiculous.

[Jabberwocky]

Everyone chats about work! Everyone chats in public places over dinner / a beer / a coffee, etc.
There is no doubt about that. But, in those environments, there is still some form of "privacy"!
And, that's what I believe is the difference here. No form of social media can be described in
any way as being "private"!

di Montezemolo is "old-school" and probably doesn't get what the big deal is about social media,
so he has made a decision, which he has the right to make. He doesn't want Ferrari business,
in whatever shape or form, to be discussed on the internet/public. Nothing wrong with that.

Alonso is, at the end of the day, an employee and if he is directed by his employer not to post
anything about his employment, then so be it.

This really is nothing more than a tempest in a teacup!!

And how do you then justify the horse whisperer's web site?.

That is screened. What if Fernando posted a pic of the computer room showing tech data of the cars etc without thinking about it, or a picture of a telemetry read out in a fit of anger.

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[racechick]

Everyone chats about work! Everyone chats in public places over dinner / a beer / a coffee, etc.
There is no doubt about that. But, in those environments, there is still some form of "privacy"!
And, that's what I believe is the difference here. No form of social media can be described in
any way as being "private"!

di Montezemolo is "old-school" and probably doesn't get what the big deal is about social media,
so he has made a decision, which he has the right to make. He doesn't want Ferrari business,
in whatever shape or form, to be discussed on the internet/public. Nothing wrong with that.

Alonso is, at the end of the day, an employee and if he is directed by his employer not to post
anything about his employment, then so be it.

This really is nothing more than a tempest in a teacup!!

And how do you then justify the horse whisperer's web site?.

That is screened. What if Fernando posted a pic of the computer room showing tech data of the cars etc without thinking about it, or a picture of a telemetry read out in a fit of anger.

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If that was a genuine concern it would have been dealt with at the time of contract signing. And has Fernando posted a pic of the computer screen? Or telemetry? No.
Even if it was a sudden new concern for some reason, why do it in public?

[Jabberwocky]

No but he has not had a fast team mate since social media took off.

Something to remember is that their is no such thing as Top Secret. What you have is a lot of little restricted bits of information that grouped together become an issue

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[spankyham]

So much written about what LCdM supposedly said about Nando and tweeting.

To all those who've posted negative stuff I have one extremely simple question, please quote me the words Luca spoke - make it exact - that backup anything you've posted.

[racechick]

I wouldn't say the talk is negative, I'd say it's more discussing whether Luca actually CAN ban Alonso from twitter.
I think when I first posted a link about the twitter ban I said 'it seems ' Luca has banned Alonso. If he didn't then it's end of story. Here's a link ALLEGING Luca banned Alonso.
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/di-mo ... itter-ban/

I don't follow Alonso on Twitter, does anyone here? Has he stopped tweeting about Ferrari?

[spankyham]

I wouldn't say the talk is negative, I'd say it's more discussing whether Luca actually CAN ban Alonso from twitter.
I think when I first posted a link about the twitter ban I said 'it seems ' Luca has banned Alonso. If he didn't then it's end of story. Here's a link ALLEGING Luca banned Alonso.
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/di-mo ... itter-ban/

I don't follow Alonso on Twitter, does anyone here? Has he stopped tweeting about Ferrari?

My question was directed at the negative stuff and all the interpretations going on. My challenge was to those people. Simply quote the words Luca said.







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