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[CookinFlat6]

The best news ever! Some news, any news about the resolving the problem at the best F1 garagista in history

http://news.sky.com/story/1178061/mclaren-boss-dennis-plots-125m-share-swoop

I am not sure what's going on on if it's gonna turn out well but we finally got a shake

If Ross Brawn were to appoint me as his merchant banker and corporate advisor he would end up owning McLaren and turning it into the British Ferrari for the next 100 years

I'm the meantime however lets give Ron all our best wishes in removing the cancer that has crept into the team

[Jabberwocky]

How much did Ross sell his team for?

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[CookinFlat6]

100 mill and with his rep he could leverage that from investors 20 x

So he could command 2 billion in funds to make a hostile takeover. He doesn't need that much
If mansour ojjeih wants out and has fallen out with Ron, there's 25%, the Bahrainis are likely to buy into the idea of Ross rejuvenating the business meaning Ron would have to chew on it. If the Bahrainis want out the. It's a simple matter of who can raise more to buy the Bharainis out.

And the Bharainis don't need the money, if they can be sold that Ross can add more value.........

[racechick]

Oh this sounds interesting!!! Much as I wanted Ross to stay at Merc it would be ace to see McLaren back up to speed and the poo cleared out!

Ross OR Ron and Whitmarsh gone. Then the excitement for the team can start to creep back!

[CookinFlat6]

Ron's best move is to get Ross on board, Ross with a bit of verve doesn't need Ron, the main thing is that if the company is in play then Whitmarsh is history, a bad memory, and button sam Michael and all the other disturbing young men getting paid to hang around

[bud]

In Ron we trust

[CookinFlat6]

In Ron the Bharainis gotta trust. If they are not happy with him, and it sounds as though they have been backing Whitmarsh, then he will have to buy them out completely. If they were happy with him he would already have been reinstated and Whitmarsh dumped.

His best bet, apart from raising the funds is to offer a change for the better, like Ross. But then would Ross want to be TP or would he want a role similar to Rons.

There have been stories for several months suggesting that Ron Dennis is trying to raise money to buy out fellow shareholders in the McLaren Group, in order to regain control of the company’s F1 operations – the most visible part of the empire Dennis built.

Dennis has been keen to shake up the team for some time, but the other shareholders have supported the efforts of Martin Whitmarsh, despite the fact that the 2013 campaign was one of the least successful in the team’s history. It is clear that Whitmarsh cannot afford a repeat of that in 2014, although it will be a difficult year as it will be the last with Mercedes before McLaren switches to Honda power in 2015, and Mercedes will be keen to avoid too much information flowing through McLaren to Honda. In an effort to get the team working better, Whitmarsh has been on a recruitment drive, to strengthen the engineering team.

The Group, which has a different shareholding to McLaren Automotive, the car company, is 50 percent owned by the Mumtalakat, the government-controlled investment company which manages the sovereign wealth fund of the Kingdom of Bahrain.

Dennis owns 25 percent of the McLaren Group and the other 25 percent belongs to Mansour Ojjeh of TAG. At the moment there is no sign that either of Dennis’s partners want to cash in their shares, so to acquire them would inevitably cost more than the shares are worth, if a deal is to be struck.

[racechick]

I read sometime ago about a fall out between Ojjeh and ron( and I can't for the life if me remember what it was) but Lisa remained friendly and goes to stay with the Bharainis.

I can't understand why Whitmarsh retains support from any quarter, unless the falling out with Ron was so acrimonious that they won't go back there.

Whitmarsh seems to me to have nailed his colours to the Button mast and is prepared to sink the ship with him.

But it does sound like change may be in the wind.

[CookinFlat6]

Whitmarsh and his disturbing ways are all about shmoozing and politicking, kissing bottom, and nodding yes sir and all the backstabbing and nepotism we know all about. Thats what he has turned the team into, with drivers like Button who seem good on paper but are not really winners but are attractive to him and his PR ideas.

Whitmarsh will be an easier guy to get on with than Ron. And for me enough things have now fallen into place to start making sense of the last 5 years.

I think Whitmarsh pushed Ron out with help from Max. I think there has been a power struggle since then as Ron gradually lost more and more voting shares and then his mate Mansour must have been 'seduced' by Whitmarsh, turning Whitmarshs position unassailable.

Things like Whitmarshs eagerness and willingness to dump kers after 2009, when it had cost them a lot to make work and would have been an advantage. Instead he didnt veto the removal of kers, McLarens potential big advantage over the rest. Then there is his Fota leadership, no matter what he did the result was an ineffective and divided Fota, just as Max/Bernie would have wanted.

IMHO Ron gave the TP role to Whitmarsh as caretaker, and Whitmarsh used it against him and then consolidated his position by creaping to the Bharainis. Obviously Ron and Mansour have fallen out and hopefully this wont affect his decision on who to sell out to, but if it does then Ron could struggle. Its not like Whitmarsh has the gumption to raise money and buy in himself, he is relying on his disturbing relationship with the owners to continue. But no matter how disturbing they find him, surely they would give control to someone more competent if he comes along, especially with funds.

So lets hope Ron has a TP in mind and gets the money needed to buy 25 + 1%

[1Lemon]

Whitmarsh and his disturbing ways are all about shmoozing and politicking, kissing bottom, and nodding yes sir and all the backstabbing and nepotism we know all about.

Just sayin' you can't have a backstabbing yes man...

[CookinFlat6]

Hey this is Whitmarsh we talking about, everythings possible, look what hes done to the team in a few years

He is a yes man to the backers and a backstabbing weakling to drivers he is not disturbingly attracted to

[Hammer278]

Hey this is Whitmarsh we talking about, everythings possible, look what hes done to the team in a few years

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[1Lemon]

Hey this is Whitmarsh we talking about, everythings possible, look what hes done to the team in a few years

He is a yes man to the backers and a backstabbing weakling to drivers he is not disturbingly attracted to

Then he's not a yes man, he's political and backstabbing. A yes man, by design, has no ideas of their own so they cannot back stab as they have no motivation to; a political man will say yes but do another.

[CookinFlat6]

Its good that people are so easy to pidgeon hole. Everything is black and white just like in the instruction manual. Not. In the real world people can be duplicitous and inconsistent

Being a yes man to those stronger than you doesnt mean you cannot be also political to those below you.


http://www.gutenberg.org/catalog/world/readfile?fk_files=3274404

[Hammer278]

Hey this is Whitmarsh we talking about, everythings possible, look what hes done to the team in a few years

He is a yes man to the backers and a backstabbing weakling to drivers he is not disturbingly attracted to

Then he's not a yes man, he's political and backstabbing. A yes man, by design, has no ideas of their own so they cannot back stab as they have no motivation to; a political man will say yes but do another.

You weren't serious with this post were you? You know, filling andrew's void in this forum isn't a requirement whatsoever!