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[IheartKimmi]

If you check Page 4 of the Brazil thread, Liam Catterson said, and I paraphrase, FIA you are a bunch of racist d**cks. Not my reading comprehension, there for all to see.

I did think it was a RACING incident but I mentioned the racist thing because it seems ok for certain people here to say what they want and others are pretty much shut down. I read in the Forum rules that no derogeraty names should be used for drivers, why is it ok for posters to use a duck for Button? You all think I am crusading on behalf of Jenson but no, I'm not.

EDIT Racechick. I removed most of the next you edited after I replied to you. This is not the place to complain about the forum.

[racechick]

If you check Page 4 of the Brazil thread, Liam Catterson said, and I paraphrase, FIA you are a bunch of racist d**cks. Not my reading comprehension, there for all to see.

Well I missed that. I will go and edit it. While you're making one of your infrequent visits I'll also answer a previous comment you made.

I know the difference between racing incident and RACIST incident, I just posted in the wrong thread, someone did call the stewards racist for giving Hamilton a penalty. You can probably find it on the Brazil GP thread. Also while I'm here, why is Jenson Button being allowed to be characharised by a yellow duck? I thought this forum disallowed name calling. Hrmmmm, when the Mods are fans the sensibilites go. Shame on you!

I'm a mod and a fan, so shame on me for that. Who do you think would moderate forums if not passionate fans? We do it for love not money. I came to this forum because I love f1 and I stay because I like it and I like the people here, and that's irrelevant of whether they support the same driver/ team as me or a driver/team I dislike, they've become friends.
I take huge issue with your suggestion that moderators use bias when moderating. We don't and we've worked long and hard to put measures in place to make sure that doesn't happen. We don't all support the same drivers/teams anyway, and that was by a conscious decision.
You are very welcome on this forum if you wish to contribute to discussion, if you only win to criticise the forum you are not welcome. If you do have a genuine concern then either pm a mod or bring it up in the 'forum and website discussion' section, not in the middle of the Hamilton thread.
Finally, emoticons are there to be used at the discretion of posters to replace words, or an emotion that is perhaps not always best voiced. They are generally used in a lighthearted way.
Any further discussion IN THIS THREAD about the way the forum is moderated will be deleted.

[1Lemon]

What if we talk about how well Hamilton is moderating the forum?

[CookinFlat6]

If you check Page 4 of the Brazil thread, Liam Catterson said, and I paraphrase, FIA you are a bunch of racist d**cks. Not my reading comprehension, there for all to see.

I did think it was a RACING incident but I mentioned the racist thing because it seems ok for certain people here to say what they want and others are pretty much shut down. I read in the Forum rules that no derogeraty names should be used for drivers, why is it ok for posters to use a duck for Button? You all think I am crusading on behalf of Jenson but no, I'm not.

EDIT Racechick. I removed most of the next you edited after I replied to you. This is not the place to complain about the forum.

Button himself refereed to himself as a duck on many occasions. Therefore it is not a stretch to quote him when talking about him. If a driver says I am great, whats wrong in referring to him as the great driver. Sergio Perex confirmed his nickname is Checo, so we refer to him as checko

As far as 1 poster calling the stewards rascist, so what? thats his opinion. How does that become 'all Hamilton fans' Whats strange about one opinion in 30 suggesting racism without the 'Lewis is different' bullies swooping down for the customary lynching session

[Hammer278]

If you check Page 4 of the Brazil thread, Liam Catterson said, and I paraphrase, FIA you are a bunch of racist d**cks. Not my reading comprehension, there for all to see.

I did think it was a RACING incident but I mentioned the racist thing because it seems ok for certain people here to say what they want and others are pretty much shut down. I read in the Forum rules that no derogeraty names should be used for drivers, why is it ok for posters to use a duck for Button? You all think I am crusading on behalf of Jenson but no, I'm not.

EDIT Racechick. I removed most of the next you edited after I replied to you. This is not the place to complain about the forum.

Hey everyone. I'M LEAVING.

Did you hear me? I said...I'M LEAVING THIS FORUM.

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[Jabberwocky]

Maybe it was nationalistic not racist

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[What's Burning?]

Hellooooo... I don't see it, Lewis is only half black, just like the population of Brazil.

[sagi58]

In my opinion, there seem to be a lot of confusion amongst the 'I love Kimi/ferrari/Tifosi' fans about the difference in racsist incident and racing incident terminologies

Maybe the 2 words are the same in Italian, afterall the famous school of art founded in fascist Italy and called futurism was all about speed

In a racing incident neither driver is intentionally wrong, things just happen, like banging wheels etc. In a racist incident Ferrari would declare they were only going to hire Italian staff resulting in a spaghetti culture that they are forced to abandon a couple years later

I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and not assume that you were being facetious,
rather that you were trying to be helpful!

For future reference, I do understand English, I read it, I speak it and I write it fluently.
I am NOT confused about the two and to be honest, your reference to Italians/Ferrari can also be
deemed to be racist; however, as I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, I won't be offended...
this time!!

[sagi58]

I'm sorry; but, I have to say something!! And, it's NOT because I'm racist, it's NOT because I "hate" Hamilton, it's not
even because I am a Tifosa!! Having said all that, I would like to share an opinion based on observing the responses
of a number of Hamilton fans on a couple of different forums. One from which I was banned because I didn't agree
with the comments/demands/expectations that everyone be a Hamilton fan first and foremost!!

Anyway, having said all that, the "argument" that it's Bottas' fault for not moving over is essential the same type of
excuse/rationalization/justification that is always used whenever Hamilton is involved in some sort of incident!

It's "always" the other guy's fault, as far as Hamilton's fans are concerned. It would seem that everyone else is required
to give him a wide berth, regardless of what is or isn't in the rules. And, the best, is that if and when something does
happen and he does get penalized, it's because the stewards are racist!

Again, that's my opinion based on my own observations. It is not set in stone anywhere nor is it necessarily something
anyone else must feel obligated to agree with.

p.s. don't be mad, as that's NOT my intention, either... just giving a different point of view...

With all due respect, I think you are confusing Hamilton fans at large with a few Hamilton fanatics. Those unfortunate souls are no different from the idiots that worship Vettel, or Massa, or Ferrari for that matter. I know of a few Ferrari fans (of the Massa variety) that immediately consider all incidents involving Hamilton to be his fault and are quick to fly back to 2007 at the drop of a hat to attack McLaren and Craneboy, Lewser, Liegate, Shamilton, etc., etc. etc. This incident is not about racism, nor have the majority on this forum made mention of it. I specifically pointed out that this situation (outside passing) has occurred numerous times between Hamilton and others and in all cases this year Hamilton has either left room when being passed, made the pass using the room left him, or (more important) aborted the attempt when necessary. If you have a problem with a particular comment, address your response to that person. The rest of us are talking about a racing incident, not a racist incident.

Thanks for responding; but, please keep in mind that I was very careful to be clear that my observation was based on a very specific few people/fans that I personally encountered, albeit on-line. Hamilton fans who "said" they were first and foremost fans of the sport and then proceeded to denigrate anything and anyone related to Ferrari. That is definitely a form of racism, especially when they resorted to descriptors such as "kraut" when referring to Schumi/Vettel or "spaghetti eaters" when referring to Italians. Those few fans did make anything involved with Hamilton a racist incident.

By the way, I did NOT refer to any one person on this forum, I simply made a general observation, prompted by the racing incident on the weekend. Would I have penalized Hamilton? Probably not; but, then again, I'm not a steward.

[sagi58]

I love to see him smiling

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He is definitely a good-looking young man!!

((There's that adjective again... "young"!! ))

[sagi58]

... In a racist incident Ferrari would declare they were only going to hire Italian staff resulting in a spaghetti culture that they are forced to abandon a couple years later

So people being patriotic are racists in your view?

You noticed that comment, too, eh?

[What's Burning?]

I resent being called a spaghetti eater... I prefer linguine as it stands up to the gravy better.

[1Lemon]

I resent being called a spaghetti eater... I prefer linguine as it stands up to the gravy better.

Gravy! What's wrong with you?

[CookinFlat6]

... In a racist incident Ferrari would declare they were only going to hire Italian staff resulting in a spaghetti culture that they are forced to abandon a couple years later

So people being patriotic are racists in your view?

Not in all cases, there is a line between patriotic, nationalistic and outright xenophobia. It depends on the context. For example imagine McLaren turning around and declaring that they would only employ Englishmen. That wouldn't happen. Italy have a history of democratically elected fascist governments and maybe that allows it to be acceptable to declare they wanted only Italian staff.

It's all about context, some things are acceptable in some cultures and somethings smell iffy in others

[NHcheese]

Rosberg says his goal is to beat Hamilton next year. one website phrased it as "Take down"