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[geetface9]

Hard to pick!! Newey is no slouch with a fresh drawing board. So I can't comfortably say RBR to move backwards the most. Yes, they have the most to lose, being four-time champions and all, but that doesn't mean they ARE going to go backwards.

I'd guess ferrari will move forward the most with alonso and raikkonen. I'd honestly also pick them to move backwards the most as well in case they aren't on the ball with the six cylinder engines

PLEASE, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought ferrari mainly just has experience with v8's and up? Do tell, tifosi!! Or even if they do, am I making the difference between v6's and v8's too dramatic? JOHNNY FIVE NEED INPUT!!

[LRW]

A lot of people are saying Mercedes will gain most. But its all relative. They've done pretty well this year, so there is only so much better the can do next year.

I believe a mid-field team will have a chance to gain much more. I would say keep an eye on Williams or Sauber.

[spankyham]

Hard to pick!! Newey is no slouch with a fresh drawing board. So I can't comfortably say RBR to move backwards the most. Yes, they have the most to lose, being four-time champions and all, but that doesn't mean they ARE going to go backwards.

I'd guess ferrari will move forward the most with alonso and raikkonen. I'd honestly also pick them to move backwards the most as well in case they aren't on the ball with the six cylinder engines

PLEASE, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought ferrari mainly just has experience with v8's and up? Do tell, tifosi!! Or even if they do, am I making the difference between v6's and v8's too dramatic? JOHNNY FIVE NEED INPUT!!

Neither 6 pots nor turbos are Ferrari strengths.

[What's Burning?]

Hard to pick!! Newey is no slouch with a fresh drawing board. So I can't comfortably say RBR to move backwards the most. Yes, they have the most to lose, being four-time champions and all, but that doesn't mean they ARE going to go backwards.

I'd guess ferrari will move forward the most with alonso and raikkonen. I'd honestly also pick them to move backwards the most as well in case they aren't on the ball with the six cylinder engines

PLEASE, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought ferrari mainly just has experience with v8's and up? Do tell, tifosi!! Or even if they do, am I making the difference between v6's and v8's too dramatic? JOHNNY FIVE NEED INPUT!!

Neither 6 pots nor turbos are Ferrari strengths.

They'll come up to speed quickly. They're testing the engines in LMP.

[Hammer278]

It's a costly exercise for Ferrari when the regs are not part of their bread and butter. Their philosophy is raw power, all their efforts in turbo and 6 cylinders is pretty much for F1 alone, unlike for Renault, Mercedes and incoming Honda.

[1Lemon]

Williams will be the largest gainers, easily.

Ferrari largest losers in terms of car performance (But only slightly as it's all relative, and they have 2 fast adaptable drivers)

[Ferrari man 009]

I would say keep an eye on Williams or Sauber.

Williams is a good shout. Pat Symonds designed car (he was very successful at Team Enstone), Massa/Bottas is a strong and balanced driver lineup and Mercedes power may propel them up the ladder next season. They could be the dark horses!

Is Patrick Head still involved at Williams? Havent seen him for a while and wasnt sure if he was just taking a backwards role or if he had retired. I know Sir Frank is going strong although he seems to be slowly handing over more responsibility to Claire, which isnt a bad thing as it keeps it in the family

[ckilger12]

Hard to pick!! Newey is no slouch with a fresh drawing board. So I can't comfortably say RBR to move backwards the most. Yes, they have the most to lose, being four-time champions and all, but that doesn't mean they ARE going to go backwards.

I'd guess ferrari will move forward the most with alonso and raikkonen. I'd honestly also pick them to move backwards the most as well in case they aren't on the ball with the six cylinder engines

PLEASE, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought ferrari mainly just has experience with v8's and up? Do tell, tifosi!! Or even if they do, am I making the difference between v6's and v8's too dramatic? JOHNNY FIVE NEED INPUT!!

Neither 6 pots nor turbos are Ferrari strengths.

Turbos seemed to work pretty well in the F40..........They are a large company with many resources. I am sure they will adapt quickly. Hopefully testing at the old Toyota F1 wind tunnel will help with their whoas as well

[Denthúl]

I would say keep an eye on Williams or Sauber.

Williams is a good shout. Pat Symonds designed car (he was very successful at Team Enstone), Massa/Bottas is a strong and balanced driver lineup and Mercedes power may propel them up the ladder next season. They could be the dark horses!

Is Patrick Head still involved at Williams? Havent seen him for a while and wasnt sure if he was just taking a backwards role or if he had retired. I know Sir Frank is going strong although he seems to be slowly handing over more responsibility to Claire, which isnt a bad thing as it keeps it in the family

Patrick has retired from his technical role with the team, but I believe he still does work for Williams Hybrid Power.

[racechick]

My initial thoughts are that Mercedes will do well next year and Ferrari might struggle. That said, the question was gainers and losers. If it means gain and lose places........

Merc (assuming they retain2nd) can only move up one.

Ferari haven't been stunning this year, assuming they finish 3rd, I don't think they'll move up next year, maybe back .

Red bull can only really lose.

It should be McLaren that make the most gain because they are so out of place this year, but I don't have confidence that they'll be in a position to do it.

I think as others have said. Williams could be the dark horse. I'd love them to do well and I'd be pleased for Massa. Maybe out of Alonso's shadow he might regain his confidence, and that breeds success.

[Jabberwocky]

Didn't we all think that after last year Williams had turned the corner

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[CookinFlat6]

Red bull can only really lose.

It should be McLaren that make the most gain because they are so out of place this year, but I don't have confidence that they'll be in a position to do it.

Good analysis RC

Next year we will look at each pair and work out how the points deficit has changed from 2013 - 2014

So right now Merc-RBR is 334-513
therefore Merc may be second but they can improve their points by say 100% to 668 and RBR could halve by 50% to 244 so the turnaround in the relative value of the 2 would be from -279 to +334

Now Williams have 1 and Mac have 95, if Mac get only 50 next year and williams get 100 then that pair have turned around -94 to +50
That way we can see the pair with biggest divergence. Could of course also use percentages only

So what size will your pair be next year RC?

[racechick]

Just about right

[CookinFlat6]

[NHcheese]

I think as others have said. Williams could be the dark horse. I'd love them to do well and I'd be pleased for Massa. Maybe out of Alonso's shadow he might regain his confidence, and that breeds success.

What about Lotus. Convincing second gives them financial support. McLaren have helped Lotus, and Mercedes in that they are not their rivals.