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[darwin dali]

Seems like neither of you guys will be able to convince the other of your point of view. So how about we stop it right here and now rather than polluting the thread with inane mental masturbation about things you will never agree on!

[mnmracer]

:director: Seems like neither of you guys will be able to convince the other of your point of view. So how about we stop it right here and now rather than polluting the thread with inane mental masturbation about things you will never agree on!

All I request is that he respects the three values that are the corner stone of a quality discussion: respect of facts, acknowledgement of context, value of speculation.
If you do not share such values or share the value for a quality discussion, I do not fault you for it, but surely I should not be forced to give up what most would consider reasonable values.

[darwin dali]

:director: Seems like neither of you guys will be able to convince the other of your point of view. So how about we stop it right here and now rather than polluting the thread with inane mental masturbation about things you will never agree on!

All I request is that he respects the three values that are the corner stone of a quality discussion: respect of facts, acknowledgement of context, value of speculation.
If you do not share such values or share the value for a quality discussion, I do not fault you for it, but surely I should not be forced to give up what most would consider reasonable values.

I am not asking you to give up your values, just not to argue about the same thing(s) endlessly - it gets tedious...

[What's Burning?]

All those in favor of a fishing trip say aye.

[darwin dali]

All those in favor of a fishing trip say aye.

[1Lemon]

Toucan take a fishing trip

[What's Burning?]

That's a puffin not a toucan, have some morality!

[darwin dali]

That's a puffin not a toucan, have some morality!

That would spoil the play of words though: two can take a fishing trip.

[mnmracer]

you know what, f*** it.
aye

if it is too much to ask for someone not to be deceived by factually incorrect untrue 'information'
if it is too much to ask for someone not to be deceived by old information incorrectly presented as new
if it is too much to ask for someone not to be deceived by purposefully ignoring any context
if it is too much to ask for someone not to be deceived by mere speculation incorrectly presented as fact

and if it is too much to ask for ANY OF THE MODS to EVEN JUST ONCE have an actual discussion about this

if all that is too much to ask than ban me
ban me for wanting a quality discussion
ban me for providing factual in-context information
ban me for reaching out to the mods to solve this despite being ignored time after time

if that is what you want, just go ahead and ban me

[1Lemon]

That's a puffin not a toucan, have some morality!

That would spoil the play of words though: two can take a fishing trip.

I was well aware it was the wrong bird, but I cannot physically not use a bird based pun when given the opportunity; If I were to i'd be puffin' furious!

[1Lemon]

you know what, f*** it.
aye

if it is too much to ask for someone not to <Words Words Words Words>

(Paraphrasing for space)

The trouble is Mnm, whenever you make a perfectly valid point with facts and the like, someone then replies with another valid point with facts and the like; then one of you decide to call the other persons facts bs because they don't line up with your point of view on the matter, then we end up in a recursive "You're immoral and your facts are irrelevant" war. That's fine once or twice, but it's been literally continuous.

Both you, and Cookin' are guilty of this and it doesn't generate any discussion, just pointless bickering. So maybe (And this is directed to both of you (Is this what it's like to be a parent? (If you don't stop arguing there will be no Disney land for anyone!))) you accept that the other person may use their opinion and stats (Which are figures that just boost an opinion with no solid ground to whatsoever as I can make any driver in F1 look like the best if I tried) and then rebuttal their post e.g.

I think Seb is the best because he's won 3 (See 4) WDCs on the trot

He may have, but it could be because he has adapted to his car, the best on the field, that doesn't necessarily make him the best

But that's a testament to how adaptable he is

You get my drift, one responds to the other. It shouldn't be

I think Seb is the best because he's won 3 (See 4) WDCs on the trot

PROVE IT, SHOW ME THE FIGURES, WHERE ARE YOUR FACTS!!!!!11!!!!! BEST CAR OMG

TO SAY HE HAS THE BEST CAR IS LIKE TOTALLY IMMORAL, YOU CAN'T PROVE THAT!!!!

So guys please, for the sake of my, your and every else's sanity on here, just converse like everyone else cos' you're not going to change other peoples' view by shouting figures, stats and facts at them, then calling them immoral.

[What's Burning?]

Citrus fruit argument? Does that pass the litmus test?? sorry I couldn't resist.

[darwin dali]

Citrus fruit argument? Does that pass the litmus test?? sorry I couldn't resist.

I'm about ready to make lemonade

[What's Burning?]

That's a puffin not a toucan, have some morality!

That would spoil the play of words though: two can take a fishing trip.

Oh now I get it it, that was very punny.

[Hammer278]

The Vettel thread has gained some serious traction, just like his car.

Oops I didn't.