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[CookinFlat6]

Lewis suggested the car sounded like it did in 2007 with TC
Toto said RBR Renault were up to something with engine maps

Putting aside the fact that Lewis' car sounded the same in Korea last year, how is two people equal to the vast majority?

Scarbs, well lets not go there

You mean Scarbs, when asked "is this TC-thingie story about RBR worth checking by you", who answered "Nope"?

The bottom line is that Webber matches him everytime he has a fair shot and Webber aint a great

For the quality of this discussion, I would like to kindly point out to you that you have provided no factual evidence for this, the fact the opposite is repeated over and over again by those in the know, and it would be wrong to present mere speculation as a fact.

Many insiders believe RBR is using something, quotes above (and political reasons for active teams to keep quiet)
Suzuka 2013, Webber matched Seb, would have won with better strategy, also out qualified him
In 2010 before evidence of RBR favouring Seb (wing-gate for example) Webber had won 3 races to Seb 2.
Scarbs, and why are you going there? why is there no anaylsis of this despite the documentation of other RBR tricks?


Why do you think Webber won more than Seb 3-2 before wing gate?

[mnmracer]

The bottom line is that Webber matches him everytime he has a fair shot and Webber aint a great

For the quality of this discussion, I would like to kindly point out to you that you have provided no factual evidence for this, the fact the opposite is repeated over and over again by those in the know, and it would be wrong to present mere speculation as a fact.

Many insiders believe RBR is using something, quotes above

You have provided three quotes (one cut-out-of-context). Few people would consider 3 'many'.

(and political reasons for active teams to keep quiet)

For the quality of this discussion, I would like to kindly point out to you that you have provided no factual evidence for this, and it would be wrong to present mere speculation as a fact.

Suzuka 2013, Webber matched Seb, would have won with better strategy, also out qualified him

For the quality of this discussion, I would like to kindly point out to you that you have provided no factual evidence for this. As you may simply lack the knowledge to make a well-informed opinion, I would like to point you to the fact most everyone agrees that Webber was simply unable to make the tires work (as anyone willing to look at the time sheets of his first stint would be able to see), and the fact that Webber only outqualified him because Vettel had no KERS, with a gap much less than the worth of KERS.
It would be wrong to present mere speculation as a fact.

In 2010 before evidence of RBR favouring Seb (wing-gate for example) Webber had won 3 races to Seb 2.
Why do you think Webber won more than Seb 3-2 before wing gate?

For the quality of this discussion, I would like to kindly point out to you that you have provided no factual evidence for this. As you may simply lack the knowledge to make a well-informed opinion, I would like to point you to the fact that Vettel lost two victories due to mechanical problems in Bahrain and Australia. It would be wrong to present mere speculation, especially when it does not take the data into consideration, as a fact.

Scarbs, and why are you going there? why is there no anaylsis of this despite the documentation of other RBR tricks?

Because unlike some people, Scarbs is not obsessed with trying to pin certain behavior on one team, while he and every well-informed Formula One follower knows every single team is using 'tricks'. You fail to consider or explain why Scarbs says it is not worth his time.
Also, you fail to answer why this apparent sound is a non-issue to you when it concerns Lewis?

[1Lemon]

For the quality of this discussion, I would like to kindly point out none of you are actually having a conversation, just picking pointless holes in other peoples statements....

[spankyham]

Is this the right room for an argument?
I told you once before..........

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[mnmracer]

For the quality of this discussion, I would like to kindly point out none of you are actually having a conversation, just picking pointless holes in other peoples statements....

Which is why I am very kindly asking one of our beloved fellow discussers here to stop trying to present mere speculation as founded facts.

[1Lemon]

For the quality of this discussion, I would like to kindly point out none of you are actually having a conversation, just picking pointless holes in other peoples statements....

Which is why I am very kindly asking one of our beloved fellow discussers here to stop trying to present mere speculation as founded facts.

Yes but you do that, then he does that, then you do that and it's an endless circle of people accusing people of facts/speculations/opinions that will never lead to any meaningful discussion!

For example, some people spell colour with a 'u' and some without, it is mere opinion how it is actually correctly spelt, however I believe it is spelt with a 'u' and therefore in my opinion fact. However some may disagree.

Sorry for bringing up such a controversial topic in the spelling of colour; but I needed one to make my point.

[CookinFlat6]

I have had my say on this

[mnmracer]

Good to know we have the facts on the table then .

[What's Burning?]

For example, some people spell colour with a 'u' and some without, it is mere opinion how it is actually correctly spelt, however I believe it is spelt with a 'u' and therefore in my opinion fact. However some may disagree.

Sorry for bringing up such a controversial topic in the spelling of colour; but I needed one to make my point.

a U? It's written like this; COLOR you worthless piece of *censored*!

[1Lemon]

For example, some people spell colour with a 'u' and some without, it is mere opinion how it is actually correctly spelt, however I believe it is spelt with a 'u' and therefore in my opinion fact. However some may disagree.

Sorry for bringing up such a controversial topic in the spelling of colour; but I needed one to make my point.

a U? It's written like this; COLOR you worthless piece of *censored*!

WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT YOUR FACTS YOU SON OF A WITH A ON YOUR

[zurich_allan]

For the quality of this argument I would like to point out that the phrase 'for the quality of this argument' is extremely irritating.

And it's COLOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CookinFlat6]

Absolutely filthy immoral twisting of facts

Colore is where it's at, tri colore? because I say so

[LRW]

I think the lot of you are immoral and disgusting. How dare you act like this.

It's culla.

[racechick]

I've been away for a couple of days. That was a laugh to come back to

[darwin dali]

I think the lot of you are immoral and disgusting. How dare you act like this.

It's culla.

No, it's collar and that's what I'll put around you bitches' necks and then your arses if you don't behave!