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[mnmracer]

At the end of the day F1 is a show for the audience.

If there were any doubts that you have no understanding of F1, you have no truly confirmed it.
Maybe you should try WWF1. Seems like it would fit well with your preference of fiction over fact.

[racechick]

Kimi and Vettel: Bosom buddies

If you seek for the two most different people on the grid there is a good chance you’ll end up with Sebastian Vettel and Kimi Räikkönen. On one side there’s the bubbly German, who gleefully performs a not entirely convincing Fred Feuerstein or Crazy Frog impression over the team radio and had to run away from some of Michael Schumacher’s beer bashes after their numerous victories in the Race Of Champion’s nation cup.

A mildly beer buzzed Vettel had this to say……

On the other side you have the not exactly chatty Finn, who would never pass up the chance to empty a bottle of Vodka and has to be paid extra to speak more than two sentences or empties his bowels while a seven times world champion is presented a life-time achievement award by Brazilian legend Pelé and has no qualms to announce that in poetic words on live TV

Strangely enough both have confirmed in several interviews over the time that they are good buddies. This came to widespread attention at the height of the silly season, when Alonso, Räikkönen and the two Toro Rosso drivers were in the running for the coveted second seat at Red Bull.

Especially in German language interviews Vettel didn’t tire to reiterate that his preferred team mate would be Kimi and that he definitely preferred him over Alonso.

While many observers rubbished the idea as just mere smokescreen, both Auto Motor und Sport and Motorsport Total reported after the signing of Daniel Ricciardo that it was Dr. Marko who had vetoed Kimi’s transfer to Red Bull, overriding Vettel’s preference in favour of an alumnus from his Red Bull young drivers program.

Confirmation that the unlikely friendship is more than a spiel put up for the media came in two guises before and after the Japan GrandPrix. Showing their rivals Alonso and Webber how to give someone a ride after the race without incurring a reprimand, Räikkönen offered Vettel a seat on his private jet and they traveled back to Europe together.

Another confirmation came from Nico Hülkenberg. After his stunning drive in the Korean Grand Prix, German Broadcaster RTL produced a lengthy pre-race feature during which the world’s worst dressed man, RTL reporter Kai Ebel, interviewed the Hulk in a Japanese sushi bar. Asked how he gets along with the other German drivers, Nico confirmed that he gets along quite well with the other Nico (Rosberg) and especially Adrian Sutil. He ominously left out Vettel.

“Erm, there is that chap called Sebastian Vettel, too,” Ebel probed.

“Yeah well, we don’t really meet a lot,” Hulk answered. “He hangs out with Kimi all the time anyway, but we respect each other of course.“

It looks as if Dr. Marko deprived us of a really interesting and potentially hilarious scenario – two world champions in the same team, who don’t hate each other. With the two polar opposites Vettel and Kimi in the mix Red Bull could well have returned to the ‘cool days’ when they collected their trophies wearing a Superman cape or jumped into the pool at Monaco naked.

http://thejudge13.com/2013/10/15/daily- ... ober-2013/

I posted that on the last page!! You mean you didn't read it did you watch the video? Where Vettel takes Kimi off?
Keep your eye on the judge! he writes good stuff!

[CookinFlat6]

At the end of the day F1 is a show for the audience.

If there were any doubts that you have no understanding of F1, you have no truly confirmed it.
Maybe you should try WWF1. Seems like it would fit well with your preference of fiction over fact.

Please disprove the supposition 'F1 is a show for an audience'

Apply some intellect and present your case

To say 'this is not correct' without a case is to blow hot air

Please suppress my opinion with a demonstration of your knowledge

Please dont do your usual exit from debate by distraction with ad hominem insults

Win with the sheer force of your intellect

[CookinFlat6]

Beginning in the 1970s, Bernie Ecclestone rearranged the management of Formula One's commercial rights; he is widely credited with transforming the sport into the multi billion-dollar business it is now.[16][17] When Ecclestone bought the Brabham team during 1971 he gained a seat on the Formula One Constructors' Association and during 1978 became its president. Previously, the circuit owners controlled the income of the teams and negotiated with each individually, however Ecclestone persuaded the teams to "hunt as a pack" through FOCA.[17] He offered Formula One to circuit owners as a package which they could take or leave. In return for the package almost all that was required was to surrender trackside advertising.[16]

waiting for your take on the facts

ouch!

buy some vaseline next time

[Ferrari man 009]

Sorry but anyone who doesnt think F1 is a sport for the audience is deluded.

Without the audience, there would be no F1 - same as any sport!

[darwin dali]

Sorry but anyone who doesnt think F1 is a sport for the audience is deluded.

Without the audience, there would be no F1 - same as any sport!

I beg to differ: mattress sport doesn't need an audience

[CookinFlat6]

Thats not really a competitive sport though. One party allows the other to come first

[darwin dali]

Thats not really a competitive sport though. One party allows the other to come first

Then you're doing it wrong...

[CookinFlat6]

[CookinFlat6]

Sorry but anyone who doesnt think F1 is a sport for the audience is deluded.

Without the audience, there would be no F1 - same as any sport!

Alas, its unlikely we will hear the opinion of those who claim otherwise

thats the problem with our internet era, its all too easy for some to lay down challenges without honour or shame, on the assumption that people will forget the lack of moral fibre by the time the next topic is discussed

[LRW]

A recent survey shows 58% of people think Kimi is better than Seb.

That's an awesome stat.

Source

[CookinFlat6]

You are wrong LRW, its a disgrace that you are so immoral as to twist the facts,




its 60% not 58%

As soon as the morality police have built up enough nerve, they will be back to insult you, mark my words!

[Prince]

In my opinion Seb have a great car Red Bull, is better than Lotus in this moment. So, Vettel have a car very quick and Kimi haven't a car, However is very great driver. kimi is a serious guy in this job

[Rattlehead22]

Hard to pick between my two favorite drivers. But I gotta go with Seb, he seems like a more complete driver than Kimi. Plus Seb is more of a team player than Kimi in regards to the development side of things. People up and down the paddock praise Seb for his technical skills in setting up a car (probably the reason why he beats Webber on a regular basis if you ask me.) Kimi doesn't seem like the type to spend hours on end in the garage after a session trying to fine tune the car, I think he'd rather go grab some ice cream and a bottle of vodka, but hey that's why we all love the guy.

[CookinFlat6]

Hard to pick between my two favorite drivers. But I gotta go with Seb, he seems like a more complete driver than Kimi. Plus Seb is more of a team player than Kimi in regards to the development side of things. People up and down the paddock praise Seb for his technical skills in setting up a car (probably the reason why he beats Webber on a regular basis if you ask me.) Kimi doesn't seem like the type to spend hours on end in the garage after a session trying to fine tune the car, I think he'd rather go grab some ice cream and a bottle of vodka, but hey that's why we all love the guy.

Probably easier to hang around the garage and contribute to setup when the car is built around your needs. But then its probably built around him because he is interested and technically better.
We do know though that in 2010 ebber matched Seb on track and indeed was the more likely to win the WDC until it became clear (IMO) that the team preferred Seb to win