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#375445
Unless you're a Vettel/Red Bull fan, you'll have been exasperated with this entire season!

Having said that, it is what it is, let's enjoy what's left of the season, whether your favourite
is racing mine for 5th, 10th or even 22nd... as long as it's competitive!!
#375450
It was a completely freaky grand prix. A massive tire delamination, a nosecone failure, Webber's car on fire for the second consecutive race, a massive screw up from the fire jeep as the unofficial safety car... :-O
#375457
It was a crap race with inability to overtake.


I seem to remember plenty of overtaking, and not just in that DRS zone.

Runaway winner .....agen :yawn: incompetent track management, useless tyres. Enhanced by a fire and a fire truck on the racing line ahead of the field, random? :yikes: ...entertaining , but F1?? A good battle between Alonso and Lewis, relentless and clean..but for 5th and 6th? Getting really exasperated with all this. Oh, credit to Hulk for his defensive abilities.


Agree with you on some points here. Runaway winners do get bloody tedious yes, but it's F1 I'm afraid, and we've seen it many, many times before, most recently with Ferrari in the early 2000s. RBR's form will not last forever.

The tyre de-lamination was caused by that massive lock-up, and running for LONGER than Pirelli advised. But it's what the FIA want, and that's what they're getting.
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#375460
I said this 2 weeks ago :hehe:

Hamilton's been strong around Korea before, so I look forward to him achieving 2nd place.

:crying:


:hehe:

The Redbulls do look like they will be strong in Korea, I don't look forward to watching Webber retire again though.
#375476
Without having enough time to get into arguments to be specific, there are certain top drivers who seemed to not really putting in their all last race. Well done to Vettel for a fautless win, and to Raikkonen, and Hulkenburg, who seemed to be the only drivers who really went out there and raced the wheels off their cars.
#375477
Without having enough time to get into arguments to be specific, there are certain top drivers who seemed to not really putting in their all last race. Well done to Vettel for a faultless win, and to Raikkonen, and Hulkenburg, who seemed to be the only drivers who really went out there and raced the wheels off their cars.

The Korean GP I watched also saw Grosjean, Hamilton, Rosberg, Alonso, Webber and even Button and Perez put in pretty decent drives given their cars and the Pirelli rubber issues.

Lotus seem to do very well on circuits with funky tire situation and the much cooler temperatures on Sunday I'm sure had a lot to do with the graining that wasn't seen on the practice sessions. I do agree that Sauber did put everything together this weekend and Hulkenberg drove the car to its potential.
#375490
It was a crap race with inability to overtake.


I seem to remember plenty of overtaking, and not just in that DRS zone.


We had a leader in a different race. We had trains behind Grosjean and Hulkenberg. We had places gained because people further ahead dropped out, or overtakes because of the relative state of the tyres on the cars And maybe one or two real ones.
Take away the fire, the van on the track, and ( for me ) the Alonso/ Hamilton scrap, and the race was dull.
#375492
The fight between The Hulk, Hamilton and Alonso was good to watch, as was Webber coming through the field and the scrap between Pérez/Massa/Gutiérrez/Maldonado/Bottas was good, too. Nowhere near the worst race we've seen this year.
#375493
The fight between The Hulk, Hamilton and Alonso was good to watch, as was Webber coming through the field and the scrap between Pérez/Massa/Gutiérrez/Maldonado/Bottas was good, too. Nowhere near the worst race we've seen this year.


Agree, in fact I was amazed at how well Nico defended, especially with arguably the 2 best drivers in F1 sat on his gearbox.
#375499
The fight between The Hulk, Hamilton and Alonso was good to watch, as was Webber coming through the field and the scrap between Pérez/Massa/Gutiérrez/Maldonado/Bottas was good, too. Nowhere near the worst race we've seen this year.


Totally agree. Loved seeing them all jostling for space, and Maldonado lose 4 spots in two turns. Great racing. And not one broken end plate.
#375500
The fight between The Hulk, Hamilton and Alonso was good to watch, as was Webber coming through the field and the scrap between Pérez/Massa/Gutiérrez/Maldonado/Bottas was good, too. Nowhere near the worst race we've seen this year.


Agree, in fact I was amazed at how well Nico defended, especially with arguably the 2 best drivers in F1 sat on his gearbox.


A lot of drivers would have over-defended in that position. It was a very mature drive, much like Brazil last year.
#375502
The fight between The Hulk, Hamilton and Alonso was good to watch, as was Webber coming through the field and the scrap between Pérez/Massa/Gutiérrez/Maldonado/Bottas was good, too. Nowhere near the worst race we've seen this year.


Agree, in fact I was amazed at how well Nico defended, especially with arguably the 2 best drivers in F1 sat on his gearbox.


A lot of drivers would have over-defended in that position. It was a very mature drive, much like Brazil last year.

It was a great drive but tbh, there wasn't much defending he needed to do. The Sauber was simply too quick in the straights and was able to accelerate out of a corner much faster than the Merc. Lewis would get right on his tail in sectors two and three but Nico would simply pull away in Sector one and the one time Lewis did pass, it was laughable how easily he was able to take the position back from Lewis on the straight.

He was holding up both Fernando and Lewis, but it was great to see the scirmish. If they weren't all nursing the right fronts though, I believe we would have seen a WAR not just a skirmish. We're being systematically robbed of good racing with the existing Pirelli tires, and to they guy that came to post that he was quitting watching F1 because of Vettle's domination, he should instead be pissed at the tires, as that's what's most wrong with the sport at the moment.
#375503
It was a great drive but tbh, there wasn't much defending he needed to do. The Sauber was simply too quick in the straights and was able to accelerate out of a corner much faster than the Merc. Lewis would get right on his tail in sectors two and three but Nico would simply pull away in Sector one and the one time Lewis did pass, it was laughable how easily he was able to take the position back from Lewis on the straight.


That's my point, though. He just kept a level head, knew exactly what he had to do and then did it. Imagine Maldonado, Pérez etc. in that situation, they'd be all over the place, locking up constantly and generally trying to fight where it wasn't necessary, instead of just positioning the car properly and knowing where your advantage is.

He was holding up both Fernando and Lewis, but it was great to see the scirmish. If they weren't all nursing the right fronts though, I believe we would have seen a WAR not just a skirmish. We're being systematically robbed of good racing with the existing Pirelli tires, and to they guy that came to post that he was quitting watching F1 because of Vettle's domination, he should instead be pissed at the tires, as that's what's most wrong with the sport at the moment.


Agreed, the situation at present is ridiculous. Instead of making the tyres fragile, all they needed to do was make the gap between them greater and remove the rule that forces you to use both compounds during the race. That would open plenty of strategy options to the teams, without damaging the racing in such a way.
#375505
It was a great drive but tbh, there wasn't much defending he needed to do. The Sauber was simply too quick in the straights and was able to accelerate out of a corner much faster than the Merc. Lewis would get right on his tail in sectors two and three but Nico would simply pull away in Sector one and the one time Lewis did pass, it was laughable how easily he was able to take the position back from Lewis on the straight.


That's my point, though. He just kept a level head, knew exactly what he had to do and then did it. Imagine Maldonado, Pérez etc. in that situation, they'd be all over the place, locking up constantly and generally trying to fight where it wasn't necessary, instead of just positioning the car properly and knowing where your advantage is.


Agree, Perez and Maldonado would have defended the inside of T1, not been able to get traction and Hamilton would've DRS'd easily. Hulkenburg knew the strengths of the car and made himself impossible to pass. It reminded me of Hockenheim in 2012 when Alonso, in an inferior Ferrari, controlled his and Vettel's pace in S2 and S3 then used traction to pull away in the last sector and start of the 1st sector and negated the effect of Vettel having DRS. Hulkenburg's drive was as good as anything i've seen from anyone all season!
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