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[Nin-Chin]

I was expecting the pass as Red Bull had low downforce on their cars,and Merc went with a higher downforce setup to cure their balance issues that they suffered throughout practice,atleast I got 25points from Vettel in the pool.

[andrew]

Just proves you should be supporting Vettel. He did you a favour!

[Nin-Chin]

Just proves you should be supporting Vettel. He did you a favour!

I support Vettel a little bit,I do respect the talent he has but its boring when he wins so often,If you read my Favorite Driver section which is in order you can kind that out.

Webber all but confirmed Ricciardo when he was being interviewed on Australian TV,saying thats it's good for Australia and he's happy about it.

"Kimi Raikkonen has failed to break a record that Nick Heidfeld owns in terms of 41 consecutive finishes after he retired from the Belgian Grand Prix. Kimi's run came to an end on 38."

[LiamCatterson]

Green Peace = Bunch of idiots...

[CookinFlat6]

Greenpeace should stick to saving the whales rather than attention seeking yet stupid and dangerous stunts. They protest oil exploration yet they run ships, some not exactly modern which burn huge amounts diesel.

Do you know what part of oil exploration they protest? Do they protest the use of oil, or just any exploration for oil.

Or could it be how the oil exploration is done

Or could it be to do with certain methods that damage the environment more than others?

Do you agree that if you dont know what they protest then to accuse them of running ships is

[andrew]

Green Peace = Bunch of idiots...

Got that right!

Greenpeace should stick to saving the whales rather than attention seeking yet stupid and dangerous stunts. They protest oil exploration yet they run ships, some not exactly modern which burn huge amounts diesel.

Do you know what part of oil exploration they protest? Do they protest the use of oil, or just any exploration for oil.

Or could it be how the oil exploration is done

Or could it be to do with certain methods that damage the environment more than others?

Do you agree that if you dont know what they protest then to accuse them of running ships is

I know fully well what they protest so can the high and mighty act.

Maybe if you get clued up about how oil expolartion is carried out in environmentally sensitive areas you'll see that it is pretty safe and idiots like Greenpeace are jumping on the wrong bandwagon in an attempt to do nothing more than grab headlines.

[Nin-Chin]

[What's Burning?]

Pretty cool and very effective demonstration if you ask me.

[Hammer278]

Pretty cool and very effective demonstration if you ask me.

Agreed.

[What's Burning?]

Maybe if you get clued up about how oil expolartion is carried outin environmentally sensitive areas you'll see that it is pretty safe and idiots like Greenpeace are jumping on the wrong bandwagon in an attempt to do nothing more than grab headlines.

oh andrew, you never cease to entertain, hard to take you seriously sometimes when you make me laugh so much missing the contradictions within your own posts.

[LiamCatterson]

Watching F1 is more important than saving whatever...But I think that was obvious from a die-hard F1 fan

[andrew]

Maybe if you get clued up about how oil expolartion is carried outin environmentally sensitive areas you'll see that it is pretty safe and idiots like Greenpeace are jumping on the wrong bandwagon in an attempt to do nothing more than grab headlines.

oh andrew, you never cease to entertain, hard to take you seriously sometimes when you make me laugh so much missing the contradictions within your own posts.

What contradictions? As usual, where I am concerned, you see what you want to see. Try, just for once, actually try reading what I write. Go on, I dare you to. Bet you won't though. As usual, you fail to enter into any discussion and instead sit with your cronies on here and attempt to bully members off the forum. Cue rebuke and over the top denials from the usual group of 4.

[CookinFlat6]

I know fully well what they protest so can the high and mighty act.

Maybe if you get clued up about how oil expolartion is carried out in environmentally sensitive areas you'll see that it is pretty safe and idiots like Greenpeace are jumping on the wrong bandwagon in an attempt to do nothing more than grab headlines.

clued up about how oil expolartion is carried out in environmentally sensitive areas you'll see that it is pretty safe

Clue me up, how do you dig the earth for fossil fuels safely in an environmentally sensitive (at risk) area? Is it like the safe hunting of an endangered species? Or is it like the gentle type of ****?, or the healthy type of murder?

Greenpeace should stick to saving the whales rather than attention seeking yet stupid and dangerous stunts.

How are they gonna save whales if they dont seek attention?

idiots like Greenpeace are jumping on the wrong bandwagon

Ok so, who owns this bandwagon they are jumping on? is there a secret Greenpeace 2 we dont know about? Or maybe Shell own the bandwagon, or is it a part of the public? which part?

to do nothing more than grab headlines.

What more than grab headlines did you want them to do? nuke the whole Grand Prix?

You originally said

They protest oil exploration yet they run ships

So lets get this right, because they protest about oil exploration makes them ineligibly to run ships and I presume use oil?
So those protesting about cars driving too fast in town should not drive?
Or, those protesting about hunting should not eat meat?
or, those protesting about banks high charges should not have savings?

I suspect you are one of these satirists and its all the rest of us that are a bit thick

[Ferrari man 009]

I think the crowd were booing during the podium ceremony because of the weather....what a letdown of a race.

They were booing Greenpeace for trying to disrupt the podium interviews. Im not going to get involved in the politics of Greenpeace's protest, however, I will say that the stewarding/policing of the protesters was DIABOLICAL!

Those protesters were on the roof a long time before the start, how long does it take a helicopter full of policemen to get to the roof and get rid of them. And how the hell was that protester allowed to abseil down towards the podium 3 hours after this all started? Surely the police/stewards/someone could have stopped that?

Shocking

Anyway onto the race, standout performances were from Vettel and Alonso. I think, had Alonso started P2/P3 (where he would have been if it wasnt for the pesky rain) he could have given Vettel a harder race especially as his Ferrari was very quick in a straight line (well it was compared to Hamilton anyway), however, I think Vettel was probably slightly faster over the race, which is why Alonso settled for P2 so quickly after getting it.

[SoullessPolack]

CookinFlat6, I agree with the things andrew is saying, however I think he is unable to properly use the language to express his opinions and thoughts to others. I will attempt to get his point across for him.

I know fully well what they protest so can the high and mighty act.

Maybe if you get clued up about how oil expolartion is carried out in environmentally sensitive areas you'll see that it is pretty safe and idiots like Greenpeace are jumping on the wrong bandwagon in an attempt to do nothing more than grab headlines.

clued up about how oil expolartion is carried out in environmentally sensitive areas you'll see that it is pretty safe

Clue me up, how do you dig the earth for fossil fuels safely in an environmentally sensitive (at risk) area? Is it like the safe hunting of an endangered species? Or is it like the gentle type of ****?, or the healthy type of murder?

What he was trying to say here is not that oil exploration itself is a safe process, as you are right, it will always damage the environment to an extent. Instead, as we become more aware of environmental issues, we also develop technologies and techniques that allow us to treat the environment in a better fashion than we would have traditionally years ago. You can compare it to automobiles. They are by no means clean machines. They still harm the environment with their emissions, however, as technology has advanced, they have improved where the cars built nowadays are safer for the environment than cars from 10, 20, 30, etc. years back. I hope I cleared up andrew's statements regarding that.

You originally said

They protest oil exploration yet they run ships

So lets get this right, because they protest about oil exploration makes them ineligibly to run ships and I presume use oil?
So those protesting about cars driving too fast in town should not drive?
Or, those protesting about hunting should not eat meat?
or, those protesting about banks high charges should not have savings?

I suspect you are one of these satirists and its all the rest of us that are a bit thick

Let me help him articulate one more thing in a more eloquent manner. He is saying that it seems contradictory for an organization so against oil exploration to be using old machines that cause beaucoup pollution. It would be much better for their image to use either newer ocean going vessels that are more environmentally friendly, or even alternatives energy sources, such as solar or wind powered vessels. But that is in a perfect world, and I suspect you are more of a realist than andrew and know that there are other factors affecting Greenpeace's choice of ships. Ships are enormously expensive, and so is running them. To go out and buy a whole new fleet of ships is something the organization cannot do, and that money would better be spent elsewhere. Often times, in the real world, you have to take 1 step back for every 3 steps you take forward. For example, recycling consumes a lot more resources and energy initially than just considering everything as trash; however, in the long run the benefits far outweigh the risks. It was necessary to do a little damage in order to prevent a lot more damage later on. This is what I think he is missing when he says "they protest oil exploration yet they run ships."