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By CookinFlat6
#370208
EJ works best when you rarely hear or see him, especially if Bernie is around :vomit:

I guess he knows not to bite the hand that feeds him!! :P


I think you nailed it on the head :thumbup:

where else is he going to get his inside info alowing him to correctly predict first that MS was coming back to Mercedes, and Lewis moving to Merc and Kimi to ferrari
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By Kiril Varbanov
#370213
Kimi to Ferrari makes a lot of sense now, but the outcome of the situation is likely to depend on the Massa's performance on Spa and especially Monza.
Things do not bode well for Massa if he starts in the middle of the grid on Spa ...
By operaman
#370227
Kimi to Ferrari makes a lot of sense now, but the outcome of the situation is likely to depend on the Massa's performance on Spa and especially Monza.
Things do not bode well for Massa if he starts in the middle of the grid on Spa ...


Makes no sense at all. When Kimi was ousted by Luca, it was said that he didn't fit in at Ferrari. There were also implications from other sources, that he was not motivated, didn't communicate well with mechanics, and not a team player. How are things different now? :coffee:
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By sagi58
#370246
Kimi to Ferrari makes a lot of sense now, but the outcome of the situation is likely to depend on the Massa's performance on Spa and especially Monza.
Things do not bode well for Massa if he starts in the middle of the grid on Spa ...


Makes no sense at all. When Kimi was ousted by Luca, it was said that he didn't fit in at Ferrari. There were also implications from other sources, that he was not motivated, didn't communicate well with mechanics, and not a team player. How are things different now? :coffee:


The difference is that Massa has not been able to recuperate sufficiently from his accident to contribute to Ferrari's title bids.
Also, Kimi has proven himself to be one of the most consistent points scorers on the grid, so why not get him to score for Ferrari?

The main difference is in how the media portray what is "supposedly" going on behind closed doors!!

p.s. Welcome Kiril!! :wavey:
By Hammer278
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Can't blame EJ. :cloud9:
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By sagi58
#370250
Can't blame EJ. :cloud9:

Possibly! OK, OK, "probably"; but, he looks like he's catching flies!!
Could someone remind him his mouth closes just as it opens?? :rolleyes:
By CookinFlat6
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Blonde chick: Eddie, like you, I'am never taken seriously because of the way I dress, people just assume I have nothing interesting to say

Eddie: what, sorry, did you say something, I missed that
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By Kiril Varbanov
#370264
Kimi to Ferrari makes a lot of sense now, but the outcome of the situation is likely to depend on the Massa's performance on Spa and especially Monza.
Things do not bode well for Massa if he starts in the middle of the grid on Spa ...


Makes no sense at all. When Kimi was ousted by Luca, it was said that he didn't fit in at Ferrari. There were also implications from other sources, that he was not motivated, didn't communicate well with mechanics, and not a team player. How are things different now? :coffee:


In my view Kimi has grown a lot - both in personal and racing experience. Ferrari needs a consistent driver, even a championship contender. At the same time, they need points for constructors title, which can't happen with Massa - one reason or another.
Ferrari will earn all of these with the Iceman, along with its huge fan base - arguably the largest in the world. This brings sponsors, too. He, Kimi, will bring his charisma, too - that's pretty much enough for certain people to be motivated, as opposed to the usual pep talk that St. Dom. gives every year at this time.
Why isn't that a good deal?

Thanks, @Sagi58, for the welcome, though I hardly see any time available recently. Studio preparation on full steam.
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It's true Kiril that people grow. Perhaps Kimi has as well. I'm of the opinion that he's got to do a lot to erase the bad taste left by his disinterest before the sabbatical. However impressive the string of points finishes the real issue for Ferrari is the car not their drivers. It's no coincidence that Massa began the season on such a high note just when the car showed promise and was competitive.

Kimi is not Alonso or Hamilton, guys that can compete with a non optimal machine and you need no more proof of that than the 2009 season.
By operaman
#370269
Kimi to Ferrari makes a lot of sense now, but the outcome of the situation is likely to depend on the Massa's performance on Spa and especially Monza.
Things do not bode well for Massa if he starts in the middle of the grid on Spa ...


Makes no sense at all. When Kimi was ousted by Luca, it was said that he didn't fit in at Ferrari. There were also implications from other sources, that he was not motivated, didn't communicate well with mechanics, and not a team player. How are things different now? :coffee:


The difference is that Massa has not been able to recuperate sufficiently from his accident to contribute to Ferrari's title bids.
Also, Kimi has proven himself to be one of the most consistent points scorers on the grid, so why not get him to score for Ferrari?

The main difference is in how the media portray what is "supposedly" going on behind closed doors!!

p.s. Welcome Kiril!! :wavey:


But that doesn't change the fact that Kimi is Kimi (thank God) and is not going to play by the rules Ferrari has set down. It would take a complete about face by Luca for this to happen. Given he has already given Alonso the "No driver is bigger than Ferrari!" speech, I can't see him going back on his previous pronouncement, that Raikkonen was not what was needed at Ferrari.

Personally, I can't see Kimi accepting the demands being a Ferrari driver will make of him. He holds no ill feelings towards the Scuderia, but I can't see him fitting in to the culture which you must admit is different from Lotus. For that matter I can't see him fitting in at Red Bull, unless it was made perfectly clear that he was there to win and not just gain points and support Seb.

I think Kimi is better off at Lotus. If, and only if, there are funding issues with the team, I can see him looking elsewhere. I would not be surprised if Kimi stays at Lotus, Ricciardo goes to Red Bull (despite Marko's waffling) and Massa retains his seat at Ferrari. An interesting possibility for Ferrari might be Rosberg however. I know they took a shot at him before, but I believe his contract might be up at the end of this year.
#370271
The Eddie Jordan news network has a good track record. Andrew would say they were all lucky 50/50 chance guesses though. :D
TOPGEARNo matter what he does on the track this weekend in Belgium, Kimi Räikkönen will be the # in everyone’s Tweets. What seemed like an obvious switch to Red Bull next year seems like anything but. Instead the talk is of a move to Ferrari alongside or (depending on how much drama you like served with your gossip) as a replacement for Fernando Alonso. And that’s via the Eddie Jordan News Agency, the source that gave you Button to McLaren, Schumacher to comeback and Hamilton to Mercedes.

The more lurid take on the story is that Luca de Montezemolo and Alonso didn’t make up before heading for the beach and their feud sizzled in the August heat. Ferrari, don’t forget, doesn’t hesitate to show the door to the best drivers in the world when they feel the time is right; ask Niki Lauda, Alain Prost or, um, Kimi Räikkönen. Oh yes, let it not be forgotten that the sabbatical Kimi returned from was orchestrated by Ferrari, who were fed up of seeing their champ (their last champ) beaten by Felipe Massa. Of course, the less lurid version of the story has Kimi replacing Massa. Go figure. But do believe it; Eddie rarely gets these things wrong.
By LiamCatterson
#370296
Hmmm, but the question is, will Alonso have it? I mean, I am not calling Alonso the Ferrari version of Vettel, but can he handle someone on the same level as him in Ferrari? He left McLaren all because Lewis was basically kicking his bottom and had no choice but to return to a shittier version of Renault. Hmmmm
By SoullessPolack
#370299
Let's not forget about that little concept called change, and how important it is. Ferrari has grown, and as is not the same now as the Ferrari of 2009. Kimi has grown too, and is not the same Kimi as 2009. These two factors alone mean that you can't use that 2009 situation and claim that it won't work now. The situations now are dramatically different.
By operaman
#370302
Let's not forget about that little concept called change, and how important it is. Ferrari has grown, and as is not the same now as the Ferrari of 2009. Kimi has grown too, and is not the same Kimi as 2009. These two factors alone mean that you can't use that 2009 situation and claim that it won't work now. The situations now are dramatically different.


How can you say Ferrari has changed when Luca is still giving the same "Drivers come and go ...." speech? And Kimi????
How has he changed?

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