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[stonemonkey]

Is this gonna give rise to some sort of ruling that tyres must be kept within suppliers recommendations?

[darwin dali]

Is this gonna give rise to some sort of ruling that tyres must be kept within suppliers recommendations?

Like with any rubber, one should be aware of certain recommendations and warnings

[stonemonkey]

Shouldn't they be like rubber horses or something?

[darwin dali]

Shouldn't they be like rubber horses or something?

If you wanna go kinky, sure!

[What's Burning?]

So will we see the Scuderia looking to have Pirelli bring harder compounds to other races? Many argued that Pirelli was being conservative, but with the new tires, the 2012 construction with the 2013 compound really suiting some teams more than others, I wonder if this topic of conversation is indeed over the year.

Given the rumors of Michelin entering the sport next year, It would be seen as a catastrophic piece of marketing by Pirelli and a failure of their management to reel in the beast that is the whim of the FiA.

[racechick]

The size of the tyres will not be changing next year.....which will be a blow to Mercedes with the more powerful engine.
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2013/08/f ... tyre-size/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[What's Burning?]

I'm not sold on the Merc more powerful engine bandwagon. I don't believe that Ferrari or Renault would be that far off the mark. I think at this point continuity may be a good thing for Pirelli, but I think this writeup assumes that Pirelli's contract is being extended.

[sagi58]

The size of the tyres will not be changing next year.....which will be a blow to Mercedes with the more powerful engine.
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2013/08/f ... tyre-size/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Dumb Question of the Day:

Why?

[Hammer278]

The size of the tyres will not be changing next year.....which will be a blow to Mercedes with the more powerful engine.
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2013/08/f ... tyre-size/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Dumb Question of the Day:

Why?

Same question here.

[racechick]

The size of the tyres will not be changing next year.....which will be a blow to Mercedes with the more powerful engine.
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2013/08/f ... tyre-size/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Dumb Question of the Day:

Why?

Same question here.

Because the more powerful engine will put more power down through the tyres and wide tyres will help , they were the team wanting the wide tyres.

[Hammer278]

Hardly an issue, will the power difference make such an impact? I would've thought the importance would like in how the power is transferred to the tyres through the axles and suspensions, less to do with the extent of power.

If too much power is a problem, I think they'd love this problem since all they need is to turn the power down using a button on the steering wheel.

[racechick]

Just what ive read somewhere. Merc was the team pushing for the wider tyres and I read it was likely because of the greater power going through them.

I've also read that keeping them as they are will better suit the engine makers and be more of an issue for customer teams
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2013/08/f ... tyre-size/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

.......so don't know.

[CookinFlat6]

Without the wider tyres, the maximum power can be delivered higher up the rev band. Once the wheels are rolling instead of when they start to roll.

The team can use the extra power to make sure its the fastest accelerating car between 130 - 170 mph for example.

Mercedes have some bright engineers who will not find extra power a problem, wider wheels or not

Its better for the customer teams to keep the tyres the way they are as it would mean a lot more design to accomodate the wider tyres. The works teams have the advantage of bing able to package the car around the engine and tyres better, whereas the customers have less integral information and so any deviatrion form what they have been working on is a lot harder to integrate

For McLaren and FI though, they will be at a bigger disadvantage without wider tyres than Merc themselves as Merc can integrate better a solution to 'too much torque leading to wheelspin' at this late stage of the game

Thats the biggest advantage the works teams have - they can design the whole car around the the engine and how it delivers its power, how it needs to be cooled etc etc, wanting wider tyres is just part of all the stuff they would have previously agreed with the engine maker - stuff the customer teams have less knowledge about

[Jabberwocky]

If merc have this fabled engine, the difference is that the more detuned it is the more reliable it will become.

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[CookinFlat6]

Very true, and that could be worth a lot more than extra mph, they could even reduce the rev limit

Also I dont see why so many doubt one engine maker could be 15% up on power given the myriad of possibilities for using the energy recovered. Its not like the normal aspirated engines where the power was the power delivered from a set of rules.

Now depending on how good your solution for efficiently using the power recovered in kinetic and thermal form whilst remaining reliable is a brave new world for these guys