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By What's Burning?
#369416
and were a team make the wrong choice their season is effectively done. one tire works for INDY, NASCAR, and GRAND-AM so it can work when the ruling bodies aren't playing games.
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By sagi58
#369422
They weren't allowed to test tyres properly, just given a ludicrous mandate to make tyres that wear out too quickly...

And, we come again, full circle to the need for testing....
... Mercedes stepped in to help them out of an increasingly difficult situation :gone:

That's one way of looking at it!! :D
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By What's Burning?
#369445
Interesting TG appearance yesterday. He is indeed the number two driver in the reasonably priced car and I'm sure Mark is reasonably pleased with that.
By What's Burning?
#369615
Found this buried in ESPN, fun read.
ESPNF1 Formula One will be a duller place next year. Mark Webber is leaving the sport to drive Porsche's new LMP1 car, and although his departure opens up the tantalising prospect of a partnership of Kimi Raikkonen and Sebastian Vettel at Red Bull, his presence in the paddock will be sorely missed. His willingness to tell it like it is, combined with his colourful turn of phrase, makes him one of the most entertaining and worthwhile drivers to interview in the paddock. To pay tribute to the straight-talking Australian we decided to compile a list of some of our favourite quotes. ESPN usually deals with Top Tens, but in this case we couldn't resist a Top Twenty...

On finding Australian sponsors to bring to his first drive at Minardi in 2002...
"It is big money, Formula One. I mean, a million Australian dollars is £350,000, which is nothing. Ten million is £3 million, which is serious money - but ten million Aussie dollars can buy a lot of Utes!"

On the complexities of a modern F1 car...
"They make a female look low maintenance these days, mate"

On comparing himself with 2009 world champion Jenson Button...
"Unfortunately, when I got myself in a good car, I had Sebastian as a teammate. Jenson didn't have that at Brawn; he had Rubens"

On being rear-ended by Romain Grosjean at the start of the 2012 Japanese Grand Prix...
"It was that first-lap nutcase again"

On his first impressions of the Valencia street circuit...
"The track is like a Tesco car park"

On whether Formula One should go racing in Bahrain in 2011...
"When people in a country are being hurt, the issues are bigger than sport. Let's hope the right decision is made"

On what was going through his mind while passing Fernando Alonso at Eau Rouge in 2011...
"You don't have much time to get the calculator out at that point"

On winning the British Grand Prix after being given an earlier-spec front wing to team-mate Sebastian Vettel over the weekend...
"Not bad for a No. 2 driver"

On qualifying a tenth shy of pole position and Red Bull team-mate Sebastian Vettel at the 2010 Australian Grand Prix...
"It was a bee's sausage off pole, but at least I'm on the front row. I'll sleep fine tonight. I will be happy in the morning when I wake up in a good position to have a good race. In fact, I'm getting happier every minute"

On team-mate Sebastian Vettel overtaking him for victory at the 2013 Malaysian Grand Prix despite being told by the team to hold position behind Webber...
"The team made a decision to get the car to the end. But Seb made his own decisions and will have protection. That's the way it goes"

On whether he's ever been tempted to punch Sebastian Vettel...
"My dad always said you shouldn't hit boys, mate"

On his motivation ahead of the start of the 2008 season...
"You've got to push yourself in Formula One; it's not tiddlywinks, it's a bloody important sport and you go into it each year trying to test yourself"

Reflecting on his decision to race for Williams rather than Renault in 2005 (Renault went on to win the 2005 and 2006 titles)...
"The scoreboard never lies and spilt milk is something I haven't been a big fan of either. You've just got to get on with it. What's wrong with using the word 'mistake'? I've said I've f***ed up. I made a mistake, it was my personal mistake. It's not really regrets, I have to live with it and get on with it"

On Adrian Newey...
"When I go to the factory it's always a good sign when I see his car there, I'm happy. He is such a beacon for our team. For us, when it is a bit smelly, he just sticks to his guns, and when it's going well, you never notice it"

On the charms of Monte Carlo...
"I think it's a very dramatic backdrop, I love the ocean and I love the cliff faces. To have a race track here is quite exceptional. But for me, in terms of all the small dogs and the handbags and that sort of stuff, it's not really my thing, mate"

On the fickle nature of Formula One after a disappointing year with Williams in 2005...
"If you have a tough weekend you have got nowhere to hide. If you have a fantastic weekend you get rewarded, everyone thinks you are a legend. There is no grey area in this sport. It is a fine line between the Whitehouse and the Shithouse, that's the way it is, always has been, always will be"

On Formula One in 2013...
"The whole category is geared around tyres at the moment. Everything is around tyres. Tyres, tyres, tyre, tyres, tyres. Obviously you go around way under the potential of the car. It's not a lot of fun but that is how it is"

On Cosworth's engine budget compared to its rivals' in 2006
"They can't lunch engines like they're going out of fashion, like Honda"

On having the last piece of metal removed from his leg, four years after breaking it while cycling in Tasmania...
"Home and feeling great. Last bit of metal out of my lower leg. Feeling lighter already"

In response to a call from the pit wall at the 2006 Brazilian Grand Prix to let Williams team-mate Nico Rosberg pit first...
"Don't think so mate. Britney's in the wall"
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By racechick
#369620
:rofl::rofl: Brilliant! Love that last one :hehe:
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By LewEngBridewell
#369624
:rofl: :rofl: Brilliant! Love that last one :hehe:


+1 :hehe:
By andrew
#369696
Reminds me of Eddie Irvine and Jaques Villineuve. Give it a couple of years and he'll be staggering around the paddock moaning about magic buttons and wotnot to anyone who'll listen.
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By myownalias
#369699
Reminds me of Eddie Irvine and Jaques Villineuve. Give it a couple of years and he'll be staggering around the paddock moaning about magic buttons and wotnot to anyone who'll listen.

Probably not; but I can see MW coming back in two years and punching Seb in the face or breaking "the Finger". :hehe:
By andrew
#369704
Reminds me of Eddie Irvine and Jaques Villineuve. Give it a couple of years and he'll be staggering around the paddock moaning about magic buttons and wotnot to anyone who'll listen.

Probably not; but I can see MW coming back in two years and punching Seb in the face or breaking "the Finger". :hehe:


Jealousy is such a cruel mistress. :hehe:
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By LewEngBridewell
#369717
Reminds me of Eddie Irvine and Jaques Villineuve. Give it a couple of years and he'll be staggering around the paddock moaning about magic buttons and wotnot to anyone who'll listen.


There is certainly that lingering danger. I hope he doesn't turn out like that, as I've always thought of him as a brilliant bloke.
By andrew
#369720
Reminds me of Eddie Irvine and Jaques Villineuve. Give it a couple of years and he'll be staggering around the paddock moaning about magic buttons and wotnot to anyone who'll listen.


There is certainly that lingering danger. I hope he doesn't turn out like that, as I've always thought of him as a brilliant bloke.


He's also driven for the most teams out of the current crop of drivers or is equal with Button if you count name changes as a different team.
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By Jabberwocky
#374904
The thing is with the "Mark is the victim" party, is that when you look back the things redbull have done, like swapping the front wings etc have been very much publicised (at marks doing or not) so it has just added up until now

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