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[zurich_allan]

Engine. Man when I saw that flash of silver I was like NO. F*CKING. WAY. And then I saw the yellow gloves...and was like, phewwww. But they lost some points today, hope this was a 1 off thing.

Btw.....



Dat tyre....

Just to clarify the picture - you're saying 'dat tyre' - and I presume you're meaning that it looks in bad shape? I understand why you might think that, but the tyre is absolutely fine - or at least you can't see what wear is or isn't on it. What you're seeing is all the pick-up of loose rubber that then 'melts' back to the surface from when the drivers go over the marbles to pick up rubber on their in lap. It's all those bits of rubber that create the uneven surface on the tyre. Look closely and you'll see this on every car at every race - perfectly normal.

I also don't agree with the Grosjean penalty for the overtake slightly off track. I seem to remember Vettel doing this at Melbourne in either 2010 or 2011? Overtake off track which effectively won him the race or something like that? At the time it was pointed out that he was WELL off track with all four wheels over the white lines, yet there was no action. Was this rule different then, or has it been changed in some way? I thought it was the same, but I could well be wrong. Circumstances are identical - overtake round the outside but going off track - so able to maintain more speed, yet on the other hand lengthening the distance covered which could be argued to balance it out.

[Hammer278]

it is nice to see that Lewis finally got gifted a race, see Button and Lewis are friends after all, If JB had let Vet past it would of all been different.

Lewis worked harder to win this race than Button worked to win his WDC in 2009.

[Jabberwocky]

I believe it is better to train hard and work easy. So I assume you are saying that Lewis does not train so has to work hard. takes all sorts I suppose.

[spankyham]

Dat tyre....

Just to clarify the picture - you're saying 'dat tyre' - and I presume you're meaning that it looks in bad shape? I understand why you might think that, but the tyre is absolutely fine - or at least you can't see what wear is or isn't on it. What you're seeing is all the pick-up of loose rubber that then 'melts' back to the surface from when the drivers go over the marbles to pick up rubber on their in lap. It's all those bits of rubber that create the uneven surface on the tyre. Look closely and you'll see this on every car at every race - perfectly normal.

Just to add to this, most drivers, on their cool down lap after crossing the finish line, will deliberately drive into and through the marbles to pick-up as much of this rubber as possible. They do this to increase the car weight to ensure they pass weighing after the race

[What's Burning?]

The new trophies in Hungary are The Agip 6 legged dog was fantastic as it translated into sculptural form.

[Jabberwocky]

The new trophies in Hungary are The Agip 6 legged dog was fantastic as it translated into sculptural form.

yep

[zurich_allan]

Dat tyre....

Just to clarify the picture - you're saying 'dat tyre' - and I presume you're meaning that it looks in bad shape? I understand why you might think that, but the tyre is absolutely fine - or at least you can't see what wear is or isn't on it. What you're seeing is all the pick-up of loose rubber that then 'melts' back to the surface from when the drivers go over the marbles to pick up rubber on their in lap. It's all those bits of rubber that create the uneven surface on the tyre. Look closely and you'll see this on every car at every race - perfectly normal.

Just to add to this, most drivers, on their cool down lap after crossing the finish line, will deliberately drive into and through the marbles to pick-up as much of this rubber as possible. They do this to increase the car weight to ensure they pass weighing after the race

To be fair, I think that everyone reading on the forum will know that since it's generally mentioned in commentary at almost every race, it's just what this actually looks like in practice that some might not have seen / noticed before.

[Nin-Chin]

Weird how everytime Hamilton wins in Hungary,Kimi finishes 2nd

[Ferrari man 009]

Weird how everytime Hamilton wins in Hungary,Kimi finishes 2nd

Kimi's finished 2nd every year since he crashed in 2006, except for 2008 when he was 3rd.

[mnmracer]

Hamilton's masterful pole-to-victory drive on the Hungaroring marked his 30th pole postion and his 22nd victory in Formula One. There were some more things to dot down in the history books though:

• With his victory, Lewis Hamilton continues to be the only driver in history to win in every season he participated in Formula One. Counting full seasons, only Michael Schumacher (who joined half-way the 1991 season, but won in his first full season, 2008) in his first career, and Sebastian Vettel (who joined half-way the 2007 season, but won in his first full season, 2008) can lay claim to the same achievement.
  
• Together with Michael Schumacher who won in 1994, 1998, 2001 and 2004, no one has now won around the Hungaroring more often than Lewis. With his 4th victory today, he surpassed his hero Ayrton Senna, who crossed the finish line first in 1988, 1991 and 1992. This is now also Lewis' most successful track on the calendar.
• Today's win ensured he did not extend his personal 'record' of a winless streak of 10 races, between China 08 and Hungary 09, and now Brazil 12 to Hungary 13.
• This is Lewis' 12th win from pole position, which means he converted 36% of all his pole positions into victory.
• His pole position on Saturday marked a new milestone for Lewis: this was the first time he put the car on pole position three times in a row. A feat only achieved of the current drivers by Sebastian Vettel (longest streak of 5, in 2010-2011 and once again in 2011), Fernando Alonso (longest streak of 5, in 2006), Nico Rosberg (longest streak of 3, in 2013), Mark Webber (longest streak of 3, in 2010) and Kimi Räikkönen (longest streak of 3, in 2005).
  
• This is Lewis' 4th victory in Hungary, but besides the Mercedes engine, there is one other common denominator to all his victories: Kimi Räikkönen on the podium. In 2007, when Lewis took his first win around the Hungaroring, Kimi finished 2nd. In 2009, when Lewis took his second win, Kimi was right behind him in 2nd. Distraught by Kimi's retirement, Lewis didn't win again until last year, when Kimi returned and Lewis won his third race in Hungary, with Kimi picking up 2nd place trophy. And who was celebrating with Lewis today? You guessed it: Kimi in second!
• This is Lewis' and Kimi's 16th podium together, the same number of podiums Lewis has with Fernando. But, despite that, Fernando Alonso and Lewis Hamilton have yet to meet each other on the podium of the Hungaroring. Did they jinx it back in 2007?
• After celebrating (well, celebrating...) their 10th shared podium in Malaysia this year, this is the first time Lewis and Sebastian are side-by-side in Hungary, one of only two races on the calendar Vettel has yet to win. Who wants to put down a bet on these two on the podium in Austin?
• Fernando Alonso's 5th place meant that for the first time since Bahrain last year, he had two consecutive non-podium finishes.
• In 1993, Damon Hill won his first ever race at the Hungaroring. In 2003, it was Fernando Alonso who got his maiden victory here, and in 2013... we congratulate Lewis on his 22nd victory! Maybe it was offset by Jenson Button and Heikki Kovalainen who took their maiden wins here in 2006 and 2008 respectively.
  
• Despite Lewis' first victory for Mercedes, there seems to be a bit of animosity between Hungary and Mercedes: every year so far, one car makes it to the finish line, yet the other retires with mechanical issues.
• Sebastian Vettel's overheating and KERS issues during the race, made it the third race in a row that he had to deal with mechanical gremlins. It's the first time since the 2011 European Grand Prix one Red Bull driver has so many issues in consecutive races, and the first time since the European Grand Prix last year that both Red Bull drivers suffered mechanical issues in the same Grand Prix weekend. Red Bull's worst mechanical issue-run as a team stands at 5, from the 2012 Indian Grand Prix to the 2013 Australian Grand Prix.
• Although Felipe Massa no doubt does not have happy feelings about the track that severely injured him in 2009, his track record his since his accident is actually better than before: an average 10th place in qualifying, one 7th place finish (no points then) and 5 retirements before 2009, yet since his return, an average 5th place in qualifying and points every year.

[Hammer278]

I believe it is better to train hard and work easy. So I assume you are saying that Lewis does not train so has to work hard. takes all sorts I suppose.

That's a lazy assumption. In your line of work, probably that analogy works...but I think it doesn't in F1. When I said 'work' I meant racing other cars, and driving fast/smart during the race instead of just circling the track with no one to race with. I'm sure you knew that but instead played another useless curve ball to defend the joke of a 2009 WDC for what reason, I cannot decipher.

[racechick]

An interesting read from Benson on the Hungarian GP and Alonso's rumoured dissatisfaction with Ferrari
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/23485311

[Jabberwocky]

I believe it is better to train hard and work easy. So I assume you are saying that Lewis does not train so has to work hard. takes all sorts I suppose.

That's a lazy assumption. In your line of work, probably that analogy works...but I think it doesn't in F1. When I said 'work' I meant racing other cars, and driving fast/smart during the race instead of just circling the track with no one to race with. I'm sure you knew that but instead played another useless curve ball to defend the joke of a 2009 WDC for what reason, I cannot decipher.

Your the one saying Lewis made it hard work.

[CookinFlat6]

What was particularly interesting was the way Lewis astounds guys who have seen and worked with the best. His fans, ofcourse already know what he is capable of, but amongst the pros, the smile on Brawns face was priceless. Not a mention of 'but lets talk about Nico' etc

Lauda who was his biggest detractor demonstrates the way cream rises and does its talking on track

"He won the race because he drove sensationally," Lauda told the Daily Mail.

"He was the best I've ever seen in my life - the way he passed people and the way he really got going.

"Generally we were not as quick as the Red Bull, but Lewis really made it all up especially the way he passed people."

The Austrian added: "He was outstanding."

And the emotional mixed up kid dedicated the win to Nicole

[Hammer278]

No way...are you serious? Got a link?