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[Denthúl]

Yes. Yes it is.

[racechick]

you knew what I meant!!

[Denthúl]

you knew what I meant!!

Actually, at the time, I didn't.

[LewEngBridewell]

Well done to Lewis. I thought this one was Seb's for the taking.

[What's Burning?]

We should take this over to the Lewis thread.

[Hammer278]

What if we made this into a Lewis thread?

Don't mind me...continue as you please.

[CookinFlat6]

You know, it is really sad Lewis feels down like this, but if I will be honest and not cold, he could do way better than Nicole. To be honest, this was her fault if anything. Instead of travelling with Lewis, she is doing that overrated piece of s*** X Factor..... F1 > All, especially that pile of nothing...

Exactly, if she was really good for him, she'd have knocked the silly shallow career on the head and would be travelling the world supporting him and preparing the nest for Lewis Junior.
Instead of delaying the call of nature to extend an unsustainable and fickle role in a false teenagers industry

[zurich_allan]

Wel I disagree on that. I think Lauda has been unfairly critical of Hamilton in the past and hypercritically so given his own stance on dangerous moves on competitors during far more dangerous racing era. I'm talking about the time he was defending Schumacher's dangerous moves by saying that during his era he would drive competitors off the road when out of site round the back of the track. And that it's all part of being a racing driver. Yet on Hamilton he said he was dangerous and would kill someone. A grossly unfair assessment of Hamiltons race raft even during his worst season .

You've taken that out of context racechick. Lauda wasn't specifically defending Schumacher then - he was defending the general move to defend off a bad start from memory, and mentioned other drivers not just Schumacher, but it was the PRESS that jumped on it and labelled it a defence of Schumacher alone, because they KNEW it would inflame emotions. He also wasn't justifying the moves as such, but saying that it wasn't really anything new, but something that had always happened but is picked up more now due to cameras everywhere. Also, in a fuller context, those remarks were around the time when F1 was becoming aerodynamically advanced to the stage that there was no overtaking, and frankly the races were becoming boring and he said he was worried that more rules to take away what little overtaking there was, or restrict it could kill F1. He was talking about an instinctive reaction as opposed to a calculation to do something that could end in disaster. There is a subtle differene there.

And no, to repeat, he has NEVER just stated that Hamilton is dangerous and will kill someone in those terms alone. He has always given a fuller picture and placed remarks like that in a proper context. It is the press that picks the most likely to be inflamatory quotes, but sadly people who are biased, and not with an open mind frequently fall for it and get reeled in.

I'm quite surprised that intelligent people can't read between the lines of our trash press at times.

[CookinFlat6]

Lauda himself said he was wrong about Lewis and changed his mind when he got to sit down talk to him etc

Wrong about what?

maybe about being a detractor

"I was impressed with his approach to things, very pragmatic, no emotions whatsoever," Lauda told BBC radio of his talks with Hamilton.

“He has been spending time with me, so he can see who I am too and has perhaps created a new opinion about me.”

[1Lemon]

Oh this has happened again

[Hammer278]

You know, it is really sad Lewis feels down like this, but if I will be honest and not cold, he could do way better than Nicole. To be honest, this was her fault if anything. Instead of travelling with Lewis, she is doing that overrated piece of s*** X Factor..... F1 > All, especially that pile of nothing...

Exactly, if she was really good for him, she'd have knocked the silly shallow career on the head and would be travelling the world supporting him and preparing the nest for Lewis Junior.
Instead of delaying the call of nature to extend an unsustainable and fickle role in a false teenagers industry

Haha why should she knock her career (even if she was collecting rubbish for a living...if it was important to her, I don't see why she needs to make the sacrifice)

Lewis needs to get over her or deal with it for now....take a BREAK, as we say. Circumstances are circumstances, he wants to race, she wants to..err, judge. For now. They're still young....maybe in 4-5 years when Lewis is a 3x WDC (or if she gets bored of her judging crap) they can reconnect. Why suffer inside when you have a good thing going with your career....PRIORITIZE Lewis, PRIORITIZE...

[Denthúl]

I'm quite surprised that intelligent people can't read between the lines of our trash press at times.

Doing so makes it much harder to find articles that suit your arguments...

[What's Burning?]

Let's just say that Lewis has gotten better as a driver, more mature, last year he drove flawlessly and this year he's driving his heart out once again. All of the reasons people would jump on Lewis have not been on display for two season now, yet we're still having the same discussion about the same guy.

Now can we leave the Spa thread for Spa?

[racechick]

I'm quite surprised that intelligent people can't read between the lines of our trash press at times.

Doing so makes it much harder to find articles that suit your arguments...

Well this isn't an article written by someone else, this is a direct quote from Lauda on an incident that was still being debated by the stewards.

Lauda called on the governing body to set an example. “What Hamilton did there goes beyond all boundaries,” the Austrian said during his commentary on the German station RTL. “He is completely mad. If the FIA does not punish him, I do not understand the world any more. At some point there has to be an end to all the jokes. You cannot drive like this — as it will result in someone getting killed.”

Compare that to his defence of Schumachers weaving which was being widely criticised by other drivers. And to his admittance that he himself drove competitors off the track himself when he was out of sight. It's two faced.

[zurich_allan]

I'm quite surprised that intelligent people can't read between the lines of our trash press at times.

Doing so makes it much harder to find articles that suit your arguments...

True, the implication always seems to be that Lauda has always only ever been critical of Hamilton, and also that Hamilton is the only one he cricicises.

It only takes a very quick google search to find interviews where he has been very PRAISING of Hamilton (long before this season!), and also to find interviews where he has been equally critical of other drivers such as Schumacher (yes, CRITICAL of Schumacher, not praising!), Vettel, Alonso, Raikkonen and Hakkinen at times. It's just that our rubbish press, and gullible general public only ever seem to latch onto the critical comments (within a fuller picture) relating to Hamilton.

As a completely objective person I can see through the bull**it and make up my own mind.