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By Jabberwocky
#366736
With the JEV v Ric argument. As with a race car is it easier to make a fast qualifier into a good racer, or a good racer into a fast qualifier?

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By racechick
#366740
Good question. I think the current tyres probably hinder the fast qualifier more and maybe prevent him using all his available pace in the race.. So on that basis you'd give the nod to Ricciardo. .....unless we're stuck with these tyre for ever more.
But Vergnes race pace is better than the points difference show, he had the tyre thing in a good position at Silverstone, and I think another bad luck thing in a good position.
I think it's a close call. But I think Red Bull were unfair only letting one have a go at the YDT. How to demotivate Vergne! But Red Bull are good at trying to demotivate one of their drivers, it was just their misfortune that they've had a tough cookie to demotivate these past few years :D
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By Jabberwocky
#366742
Maybe Redbulls true test was to see how JEV coped with being left out.

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By racechick
#366746
LOL Then I reckon he passed!
By What's Burning?
#367404
Whatever chances Kimi had of joining Red Bull next year, were thrown out of the play pen today.
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By racechick
#367413
Whatever chances Kimi had of joining Red Bull next year, were thrown out of the play pen today.


:rofl::rofl::rofl:
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By LewEngBridewell
#367434
Whatever chances Kimi had of joining Red Bull next year, were thrown out of the play pen today.


:rofl::rofl::rofl:


:hehe::hehe::hehe:
By What's Burning?
#367546
ESPNF1 Red Bull is expecting to be pushed hard for this year's title after Mercedes won the Hungarian Grand Prix on Sunday.

Sebastian Vettel currently has a lead of 38 points in the drivers' standings over Kimi Raikkonen, while Red Bull is 69 points ahead of Mercedes in the constructors'. However, Hamilton's victory in hot conditions at the Hungaroring suggests Mercedes will be a more consistent threat in the upcoming races and team principal Christian Horner has urged Red Bull not to rest on its laurels.

"I think we are set for a really intense second half of the year," he said. "But we just have to maintain our consistency no matter who the opponent is."

Asked if Hamilton's win meant the title race was now back on, he added: "I don't think it has ever been off. Mercedes since the second race have been very quick and that is still the case here. At different races we have seen different drivers emerge at the front of the field - whether that is Kimi [Raikkonen] in Germany or Lewis here or Nico [Rosberg] at Silverstone."

However, Horner pointed out that Hamilton had it relatively easy at the Hungaroring after Vettel got held up behind Jenson Button following the first pit stops.

"I think Lewis did a great job, drove very well, everything fell perfectly for them. He made two decisive moves - one on Jenson and one on Mark at crucial points of the race - and I think after Sebastian suffered his front wing damage he was able to control the race quite comfortably and I don't think he was under a great degree of threat. But Mercedes have a very strong car - they have taken pole position at six or seven races and have won three races now."


Did anyone last year think Red Bull would be saying this about the failed experiment that was Mercedes?
By LRW
#367550
Was SV's front wing damage that bad, that it prevented him from catching Lewis?
By Hammer278
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ESPNF1 Red Bull is expecting to be pushed hard for this year's title after Mercedes won the Hungarian Grand Prix on Sunday.

Sebastian Vettel currently has a lead of 38 points in the drivers' standings over Kimi Raikkonen, while Red Bull is 69 points ahead of Mercedes in the constructors'. However, Hamilton's victory in hot conditions at the Hungaroring suggests Mercedes will be a more consistent threat in the upcoming races and team principal Christian Horner has urged Red Bull not to rest on its laurels.

"I think we are set for a really intense second half of the year," he said. "But we just have to maintain our consistency no matter who the opponent is."

Asked if Hamilton's win meant the title race was now back on, he added: "I don't think it has ever been off. Mercedes since the second race have been very quick and that is still the case here. At different races we have seen different drivers emerge at the front of the field - whether that is Kimi [Raikkonen] in Germany or Lewis here or Nico [Rosberg] at Silverstone."

However, Horner pointed out that Hamilton had it relatively easy at the Hungaroring after Vettel got held up behind Jenson Button following the first pit stops.

"I think Lewis did a great job, drove very well, everything fell perfectly for them. He made two decisive moves - one on Jenson and one on Mark at crucial points of the race - and I think after Sebastian suffered his front wing damage he was able to control the race quite comfortably and I don't think he was under a great degree of threat. But Mercedes have a very strong car - they have taken pole position at six or seven races and have won three races now."


Did anyone last year think Red Bull would be saying this about the failed experiment that was Mercedes?


Ask the clowns who said Mercedes are doomed to fail..... oh wait, they seem to have left this forum for pastures anew with their tail between their legs. :hehe:
By What's Burning?
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Figured I'd share these, as expected they're TG funny and pretty accurate in their assessment so far.
TOP GEAR With four teams down, seven to go, we’re acutely aware that our half term reports have been universally downbeat, curmudgeonly even. Ferrari, Marussia, Force India and Williams have not mustered better than a B Minus between them. So to Red Bull today, just to show we haven’t lost the love for F1, and to shine some light onto the thinking behind that first batch of disappointing grades.

Because you just can’t take the blame away from the underperforming teams just as long as Red Bull keeps doing what Red Bull does. Although only Ferrari and McLaren and the (mercifully) competitive 2013 Mercedes team are in the same game budget wise, it is nonetheless not just about the money. If it was, then McLaren would not be in the midfield.

Red Bull do it differently. It is impossible to understate how important Adrian Newey is to Red Bull, as he was to McLaren, and as he was to Williams, neither of which have enjoyed such consistent success since someone in the HR departments made the mistake of thinking he wasn’t worth the money. But it can’t all be about Newey, can it? After all, it’s not just the design and engineering departments that thrive at Red Bull; at the circuit they are still the best race team.

But they remain a difficult team to like, for some. The aggressive promotion, the zeitgiesty X-games stuff, it doesn’t quite chime, nor does the presence of a car brand on the RB9’s bodywork. Does anyone really believe Nissan’s upmarket brand contributes much more than dollars to the team’s resources?

Then of course there is Sebastian Vettel. With his love of Monty Python, the stick-on moustaches and his constant struggle to find a decent haircut, he is so very likable, ja? Well, after Malaysia, that’s been debated across many a forum. I steer you towards the crescendo of boos from the Silverstone grandstands when the RB9’s gearbox broke on route to another win (it would have been five out of ten this year otherwise). His PR cause has stalled, for now at least. As long as the extremely likable Mark Webber is in the other car, Vettel will always be the bad guy to some.

But with four wins, and three poles included in his tally of six front row starts, he is definitely starting to look unbeatable. Remember, he has had to come from behind in two of his three championship runs, and that might be significant. Defending is a different kind of pressure than the do-or-don’t finish kind of pressure than comes with attacking. We know he likes things his way, or at least we do after Malaysia, so how will he cope if Lewis Hamilton and the Mercedes W04 really are as on it as they appear to be? The fourth title could be the making of him in the eyes of those who still consider him to be a ‘right place, right team, right car’ kind of champion (which he isn’t, not after those drives at the end of last season).

Mark Webber speaks like a guy who is comfortable in his own skin, and it’s always hard not to admire a guy who can get out while he’s still on top. I somehow doubt he’s as at one with himself as the banter suggests. He’s good, extremely good, but whether you believe in making your own luck or not, you can’t believe he in any way feels he’s achieved all he could have done and part of the reason for that is Sebastian Vettel. Small wonder he’s chosen to change codes entirely.

Half term grades

Red Bull: A plus

Vettel: A minus

Webber: B
By andrew
#370022
According to Sport Bild, Ricciardo is set to be announced at Spa as Vettel's 2014 team mate.
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By sagi58
#370023
According to Sport Bild, Ricciardo is set to be announced at Spa as Vettel's 2014 team mate.


Yup...

Staff wrote:">Daniel Ricciardo to replace Mark Webber at Red Bull from next season

Ending the speculation for Mark Webber's successor, Red Bull have signed Daniel Ricciardo to replace the veteran at the end of the season, the German media reports.

Webber will quit Formula One at the end of this year and will join Porsche's newly-revived Le Mans programme next season.

According to the reports, Ricciardo will be officially presented as Red Bull's new driver at the Belgian Grand Prix in Spa-Francorchamps next weekend.
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By LewEngBridewell
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According to Sport Bild, Ricciardo is set to be announced at Spa as Vettel's 2014 team mate.


This would be good news. :yes:
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