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[1Lemon]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23344423

[andrew]

Sounds like this Gribkowsky fella wants to take some folks down with him.

Just stay out of Germany MrE.

[LRW]

I love Bernie's defence - "yes, I admit I paid him £29m, but it wasn't a bribe. Honest. It was just so he wouldnt tell the HMRC about my very complicated, yet total legal, tax situation"*

*obviously paraphrasing, not an actual direct quote

[andrew]

He basically paid this guy to keep certain things to himself, which he should do anyway if he is acting professionally.

[Ichabod]

You can't count on someone crooked enough to bribe you to keep their gob shut if they get caught!

[CookinFlat6]

I cant see Bernie escaping this without a conviction. The real background was how the Lawyer essentially inflated the price causing losses for the buyers, including German municipals IIRC
So someone got stitched up and lost a lot of money because of something the lawyer did, and the net beneficiary was Bernie. The lawyer said he received a bribe . And now the Germans have Bernie in court for paying the lawyer, and his defence is that it wasn't a bribe and presumably unrelated to the massive con the lawyer pulled that benefitted Bernie and cost German industry

Hmmm

[What's Burning?]

Bernie is a little troll thief, and is where he is because of shady business practices. Curious how some defend him for stealing tax revenue from he British government, while in other posts they've attacked driver's for living in other countries to avoid paying taxes.

I can't wait to see Bernie wearing lipstick in a German jail, Gunther will take good care of him.

[CookinFlat6]

Yeah apparently Prince Charles pays seriously less tax than he should as a result of 'expensive tax advice'

Yet the half wits who deride Lewis and others for residing off shore usually claim a lack of patriotism as the reason for their indignation

[Jabberwocky]

No charles does not pay tax because he runs a private estate that is part of the crown (dutchee). So you want the next in line to the crown to pay the crown some money when very soon he will have to pay it to himself.

Isnt he one of the first of the royal family to ever even attempt to pay tax

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[CookinFlat6]

erm in this country you get taxed on any income you personally earn, including your savings and foreign earnings. If you are Royal family or even the head of the bank of England you still pay tax.
So do corporates, if the 'private estate' (which doesnt belong to him apparently) pays him a $100million yearly non dividend (for not owning it) , therefore a 'salary' for doing the job of 'running it' , then its a corporation like any other, a charity doesnt make money

As for the argument that the estate paying tax means the money goes back to the royal family misses the point by a few centuries in that the Royal family don't practically own/run the treasury, but parliament on behalf of someone Therefore its not a royal piggy bank not withstanding the lack of a written constitution

The estate makes money from property, it has no capital gains tax, its not a charity, theres no inheritance tax ever charged through the generations.

Just as it was only fair that the Queen started voluntarily to pay tax, changing the form book, then its also fair that something that looks and acts like a company pay tax also.

And theres the parallel to Lewis living in Monaco, its a type of loophole thats existed because of the lack of constitution and it doesnt happen in any other proper European country with royal families

So if Prince Charles is exploiting a loophole and like other loopholes, someone has actually got around to examining and testing it in court, then it could be closed.

Lewis deciding to live in England for patriotic reasons would be the same as Charles deciding (like the Queen did) to start paying like others.

[darwin dali]

Bernie is a little troll thief, and is where he is because of shady business practices. Curious how some defend him for stealing tax revenue from he British government, while in other posts they've attacked driver's for living in other countries to avoid paying taxes.

I can't wait to see Bernie wearing lipstick in a German jail, Gunther will take good care of him.

He'll look worse than this:

[spankyham]

Bernie is a little troll thief, and is where he is because of shady business practices. Curious how some defend him for stealing tax revenue from he British government, while in other posts they've attacked driver's for living in other countries to avoid paying taxes.

I can't wait to see Bernie wearing lipstick in a German jail, Gunther will take good care of him.

He'll look worse than this:

After a few months in his other end might look like that

[Jabberwocky]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_of_Cornwall
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[CookinFlat6]

great counter argument

[Jabberwocky]

Well it says he only pays tax because he wants to... and according to you that makes him bad

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