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[KyrosV]

lets do the math..

Red bull want to sell STR before 2010

Hyundai want there own team before 2010 to mark the 2010 South Korean GP

watch this space..

[Denthúl]

And they might get it. But my money is still on someone who has competed in, or at least attempted to compete in, the sport before. Hopefully (and this is probably more hope than possibility) Eddie Jordan will buy the team.

[manmonkee]

Buying Torro Rosso would be like chucking money away, They don't even have the capacity to make there own cars now, they have a customer Infrastructure, I pity the poor billionare who buys them. I'm rubbing my Ball ( Crystal!), and I see a russian, a russian billionare who'll talk big and then after a year sell it on to some other poor idiot who hasn't realised how expensive F1 is.

[umair_theheadliner]

btw y red bull want to sell STR???

[Denthúl]

Buying Torro Rosso would be like chucking money away, They don't even have the capacity to make there own cars now, they have a customer Infrastructure, I pity the poor billionare who buys them. I'm rubbing my Ball ( Crystal!), and I see a russian, a russian billionare who'll talk big and then after a year sell it on to some other poor idiot who hasn't realised how expensive F1 is.

The Russian billionaire can easily buy said facilities and probably would do.

btw y red bull want to sell STR???

Because by 2010, all teams will have to build their own cars and RBR want to focus on designing only one car, so Toro Rosso are being sold.

[manmonkee]

The Russian billionaire can easily buy said facilities and probably would do.

btw y red bull want to sell STR???

Yeah just like Midland, and what a success that was

[Denthúl]

When people who know nothing about Formula 1 start/purchase a team and expect immediate success, they're just fools. They have to learn and, more importantly, not expect a backmarker team to suddenly be challenging for the championship. Midland was a complete failure but look at the team now as Force India, and already they're making signs of progress. Maybe in a few years they will resemble the Jordan team of 1999 and continue to progress from there. The key difference in the performance of the same team under two different ownerships is that Mallya knows at least something about Formula 1 and didn't just throw money at the team - he threw money at the right areas of the team, brought in the right people and has realistic visions.

If someone else could do the same for Toro Rosso, then great. And I think that person is more likely to be Eddie Jordan, Dave Richards or Paul Stoddart than a random billionaire, but the billionaire has more money so would likely win the bid. Unless, of course, the Red Bull owner sees sense and doesn't want a good team to go to waste. Or maybe GB will want to retain his half of the team, in which case he'd probably want an experienced person running the team with him rather than someone who hasn't a clue.

[8-ball]

When people who know nothing about Formula 1 start/purchase a team and expect immediate success, they're just fools. They have to learn and, more importantly, not expect a backmarker team to suddenly be challenging for the championship. Midland was a complete failure but look at the team now as Force India, and already they're making signs of progress. Maybe in a few years they will resemble the Jordan team of 1999 and continue to progress from there. The key difference in the performance of the same team under two different ownerships is that Mallya knows at least something about Formula 1 and didn't just throw money at the team - he threw money at the right areas of the team, brought in the right people and has realistic visions.

If someone else could do the same for Toro Rosso, then great. And I think that person is more likely to be Eddie Jordan, Dave Richards or Paul Stoddart than a random billionaire, but the billionaire has more money so would likely win the bid. Unless, of course, the Red Bull owner sees sense and doesn't want a good team to go to waste. Or maybe GB will want to retain his half of the team, in which case he'd probably want an experienced person running the team with him rather than someone who hasn't a clue.

I don't think Eddie jordan will return no matter how much we hope. If Hyundai are interested in F1 then I think this is the time to get involved. Buy torro rosso and start work from there. It worked with BMW and sauber and with the right people hyundai could have success as well

[Denthúl]

That is true to an extent, though Sauber were already making their own chassis by that stage and BMW had been involved in Formula 1 for a while as an engine supplier. It would definitely be interesting to see how Hyundai managed, though I do have a fear that they might go exactly as Toyota did up until this point and be pretty much nowhere.

[onelapdown]

I think the best result would be to keep them as a low-budget "mighty minnow" style of team, as they were in the Minardi days and as they are (with a bit more success) now. It's no good having just one factory team after another as they're always driven by the bottom line and put pressure on teams to deliver unrealistic goals. After all, only one manufacturer can win the championship and for the rest it's deemed a failure. Teams further down the grid don't have the same pressures and so can play a vital role giving young guns such as Vettel and Davidson a chance.

[bud]

a south korean team based in Italy ha!!!

[madbrad]

The teams that are not car manufacturers will never break out of the midpack anymore. If Hyundai buys STR then there will be yet another manufacturer. Then there are 2 ways it can go - meet with success eventually like Renault, or struggle despite gobs of cash like Toyota. Unless the manufacturers suddenly drop out and become engine suppliers, then eventualy all the privateerss will leave. I will have no interest in an all manufacturer series.

[Denthúl]

I don't agree with you, madbrad - I think Williams are perfectly capable of doing it, just as they have done in the past.

[madbrad]

I don't agree with you, madbrad - I think Williams are perfectly capable of doing it, just as they have done in the past.

I am always very hopeful for Williams. I am always more content when they are winning titles. In their current situation I can't see them getting back there though. With only semi works I think they don't have the money like they did in the old days.

[Denthúl]

They have a lot of big sponsors and a good enough engine to do well this year. And with next year's new regulations, it could really be their year. The amount of money that would be at their disposal for 2010 if they did win would be advantageous and help them to defend it. Plus, with budget caps coming in, the playing field would be levelled a little.