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[darwin dali]

but will of given the required number of usefull posts by that point to get the premium "member" treatment

extra hard

[LewEngBridewell]

9,000 posts!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

I dread the arrival of your 10,000th post - the entire forum will be paralyzed and frozen for an hour

Yup! Just give me a couple of days, and that time will arrive!

[Jabberwocky]

Ahhhh he is chasing me down

[andrew]

So when does the premium member treatment start?

[What's Burning?]

I think in the UK it seems people choose either/or (Maths/Science and English), and it hurts the country. That's just an assumption though, the person who likes creativity, grand visions, emotional pacing is likely to feel frustrated in the rigid logic of maths, I don't even have evidence or external sources to back that up.

I like both. I didn't like Maths in school so much, have come to appreciate it now, it still seems boring to me to actually do though.

English in school was great.

I think that may be also hereditary... I also suffer from the creative mind, and although I find science and the physical mathematics and theories fascinating the actual act of 'computation' is a mental drain for me. Even submitting expenses at work for me is like pulling teeth even though I get my personal spent money back for doing it!

About the hereditary, my son just took the college boards tests, and although he scored in the 95th percentile for both reading comprehension and writing, he only scored in the 83rd percentile in mathematics. It made me chuckle when he told me his grades.

[vaptin]

I think in the UK it seems people choose either/or (Maths/Science and English), and it hurts the country. That's just an assumption though, the person who likes creativity, grand visions, emotional pacing is likely to feel frustrated in the rigid logic of maths, I don't even have evidence or external sources to back that up.

I like both. I didn't like Maths in school so much, have come to appreciate it now, it still seems boring to me to actually do though.

English in school was great.

I think that may be also hereditary... I also suffer from the creative mind, and although I find science and the physical mathematics and theories fascinating the actual act of 'computation' is a mental drain for me. Even submitting expenses at work for me is like pulling teeth even though I get my personal spent money back for doing it!

About the hereditary, my son just took the college boards tests, and although he scored in the 95th percentile for both reading comprehension and writing, he only scored in the 83rd percentile in mathematics. It made me chuckle when he told me his grades.

I'm not sure, I haven't checked in a long time, so my memory and understanding is poor on this topic.

I was given to understand, it was generally acknowledged there was some genetic component to intelligence, but it was massively dwarfed by environmental/ psychological/ developmental factors and the like?

[andrew]

I would suspect that environmental/psychological/developmental factors have more of an impact than genetics.

Based from my own experience, I'm the only dyslexic (albeit minor but enough to make a difference) in my family. My parents have near impeccable literacy and arithmetic skills and I really struggle with that sort of thing, despite having a well above average IQ when I was tested, though I excel in other areas. So I think a persons IQ is more to do with how their brain is wired, the quality of education and support (particularly from an early age) they get at school and at home.

[vaptin]

I would suspect that environmental/psychological/developmental factors have more of an impact than genetics.

Based from my own experience, I'm the only dyslexic (albeit minor but enough to make a difference) in my family. My parents have near impeccable literacy and arithmetic skills and I really struggle with that sort of thing, despite having a well above average IQ when I was tested, though I excel in other areas. So I think a persons IQ is more to do with how their brain is wired, the quality of education and support (particularly from an early age) they get at school and at home.

I think IQ tests, are widely acknowledged to be good academic predictors, but not of base intelligence, they are again massively biased by environmental factors I think .

The Education thread can come after the feminism one.

[What's Burning?]

All that an IQ test measures is your ability to learn. obviously if you have have a high IQ and do not go through a higher education program, you won't likely be tackling Fermat's theorem's in your spare time as a hobby. There are also various tests that all go into the score, some emphasize spacial and visual acuity, others logic, and language skills, still others patters and memorization and it's all a cumulative score that means yo can do low on some segments and very high on others and manage an above average scare because of it.

You guys seem to be on a different page defining what intelligence is. After all, they do test children as young as 4 years old, so there's not much in the way of an education variance to impact a score at that age.

[vaptin]

All that an IQ test measures is your ability to learn. obviously if you have have a high IQ and do not go through a higher education program, you won't likely be tackling Fermat's theorem's in your spare time as a hobby. There are also various tests that all go into the score, some emphasize spacial and visual acuity, others logic, and language skills, still others patters and memorization and it's all a cumulative score that means yo can do low on some segments and very high on others and manage an above average scare because of it.

You guys seem to be on a different page defining what intelligence is. After all, they do test children as young as 4 years old, so there's not much in the way of an education variance to impact a score at that age.

But cultural, environmental factors have already massively affected things at that stage.

[Jabberwocky]

I do not think that the enviroment has much to play on "Area's of Interest" one of my best friends has an adopted child (biological parents unknown) my mate is a high end Perl programmer so you can imagine how much of a geek he is. His Wife is an accountant for a large company in London. Their adopted child only real ability/natural talent is the she can draw the most amazing pictures. where as I know my mate has the drawing ability of a 3 year old.

[What's Burning?]

I agree, interests however have nothing to do with intelligence. IQ tests tend to comprise of tasks that force you to use logic to complete that given task and often measure how much of a task you can complete in a given time set. The tests are designed to level the playing field and provide a measure of an individual's ability to reason, leverage logic, and learn a task quickly.

A high IQ is also no guarantee of social economic success.

[Jabberwocky]

but in life you have to play to your strengths. I am not a wordsmith so if said tests included word style questions I would struggle, However if it was mathematical questions I would be much better

[What's Burning?]

That's why the tests are a accumulation of tests, and the scores are all taken independently and then comprise one score, so you can do poorly in one test and brilliantly in another test and it's all factored into the overall scores but you can sometimes see very skewed results with someone scoring off the chart on one segment and below average in another.

Hopefully we all find the right career.

[Jabberwocky]

do we? or do we just gravitate to them by luck?