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Formula One teams are due to vote on whether the current track testing restrictions should be relaxed.

Testing restrictions were imposed in 2009 as a cost cutting measure and have seen most outfits do away with separate test teams in order to save money. Ferrari, which has its own test track in Fiorano, has been the most vocal supporter of relaxing the current ban on in-season testing and on Wednesday will have the opportunity to put its argument to a vote.

McLaren's managing director Jonathan Neale told journalists on Tuesday that at least four teams appear to be behind the idea and that a vote would be held on Wednesday.

"Formula One appears to be about to test itself again on its commitment to different types of testing," he said.

"We'll see tomorrow when there is a vote on the subject, but I think right now there are four teams who are in favour of going track testing. Clearly if you've got a circuit in your backyard already funded and have the IT equipment [in place] you want to roll up the shutters and push the driver out."

But McLaren, which has invested heavily in a driver-in-the-loop simulator over the years, is not so keen to relax the in-season testing ban.

"Over the years teams have rightly developed the technology and the cost saving methods that go with moving away from dependence on track testing and a reliance more on desktop simulation and sometimes [driver-in-the-loop] simulators," Neale added. "By all means a simulator is a very valuable tool but there is a whole bevy of other simulations that go with it that help you work out what is happening on the circuit.

"Formula One is at the moment just asking itself again [if it wants to return to track testing] and there are some quarters pushing very hard for the reintroduction of track testing. I find that slightly curious because there were very good reasons for us, pre-the financial crisis and Lehmann Brothers, to impose some cost constraints to stabilise the sport and make sure it was in good health for new teams coming along.

"There were a variety of more high-profile ways of doing that such as fixed budgets and a number of teams were tempted to come into F1 on the basis that we would work on some kind of sustainable formula. So we've had partnerships between big teams and small teams, a reduction in wind tunnel testing, resource restriction agreements and a movement away from track testing.

"Yet in some quarters they are pushing very hard for the re-introduction of track testing and I don't see anything different in the environment - the economic environment is still precarious - that would take us back to track testing.

"I would be really surprised if a team could do a day's track testing for much less than between £70,000-£100,000 in Europe. By the time you've got the cars, flights and all the people it must be in that order."

One argument for more testing is that young drivers don not get an opportunity to drive F1 machinery, but Neale believes there are other ways of giving rookies their F1 break. One such idea is to give rookies an extra set of tyres to run during first practice at grand prix weekends but disagreements between the teams over how best to implement the proposal means that the extra set of tyres on offer from Pirelli at the Spanish Grand Prix this weekend will not just limited to rookies but will be used by race drivers. Nevertheless, Neale said the idea had not been completely sidelined.

"We are supporting that as a way forward and I think that is still very much on the drawing board to discuss with colleagues in other teams behind the scenes," he said. "For all the right reasons I believe that's a good thing to do."

But for top teams like McLaren to hand over its precious FP1 time to rookies, Neale said the idea would need to be slightly tweaked.

"Just put an extra session on the Friday morning and say that's your young driver session," he suggested. "You can then get all that you need for young drivers, the media and a bit of circuit advice and engineering know-how without having to click over and do track testing.

"Particularly with Friday morning running there is more Formula One could do to give time to young drivers. The infrastructure is there, the circuit is there and the first 45 minutes of most [FP1] sessions are characterised by an install lap and then a long wait. There is a period of time there when young drivers could be out on the circuit. I know some teams are doing that but if we want to do more for young drivers we need to make that more interesting."
#357663
Hmm. So Ferari want it and Mclaren don't. I wonder where the other big hitters sit on this one?

track time for rookies......I think they do need to be given a chance to use the cars, but not at the expense of race drivers when testing is so limited. So the suggestion of an extra session only for rookies on the Friday sounds a good idea to me.
#357697
So Mclaren are complainingvthat the have spent a lot of money on cost cutting... lol

As for testing. I think more testing is needed. Maybe an F1 junior race on a monday!


We can't afford testing because we've spent far too much money trying to save money!
#357725
Hmm. So Ferari want it and Mclaren don't. I wonder where the other big hitters sit on this one?


RedBull own a track dont they....?


Yes they do. The A1 Ring and a very fine track it is too.


Hear hear! :D
#357732
So Mclaren are complainingvthat the have spent a lot of money on cost cutting... lol

As for testing. I think more testing is needed. Maybe an F1 junior race on a monday!


I like the idea of monday testing for non championship drivers, it wouldn't interfere with the race weekend and it'd give all teams equal opportunity and surely with everything at the circuit already in place for a GP weekend it wouldn't cost that much.
#357739
I think the teams should be allowed to test as much or as little as they want and whenever they feel necessary. So-called cost saving measures and overtaking aides are ruining F1. They'd be aswell hold the races in large striped marquee tent. F1 is an expensive business, everyone knows this. If a teams can't afford to compete and move forward then they probably shouldn't be in F1.
#357740
I think the stumbling block is the amount of engines and gearboxes... extra ones should be available for tests

Why? I mean they want extra testing so it's on the teams to make sure they can support it. The alternatives? A third chassis? I see your point and it would be tough for a test driver to ruin a gear box and dictate a grid penalty for the primary driver but that's the bed the regulations have made.

If a teams can't afford to compete and move forward then they probably shouldn't be in F1.


We'd wind up with five or six manufacturers with a 14~16 car grid.
#357752
The amount of testing now is ludicrous. There will be more, its just a matter of balancing the current teams needs with what F1 needs to stay as the pinnacle of motor racing.

I don't see anything wrong with having less manufacturers. 4 or 5 would be fine, as would having 6 or 7 of the same car be ok - we've had that in the past and the F1 world didn't end then and neither would it now.

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