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[stonemonkey]

Any seller has the right to refuse to sell to you without reason, the only time they can't is when services have already been given, like if you've eaten in a restaurant, they can't refuse scottish notes.

not true, if you present legal tender and a shop refuses it, you legally have the right to just take the product as you offered payment of what they where asking with legal money. Also not true that Scottish and Northern Ireland dosh is not legal tender, it's just pounds with some fancy colours on.

Sorry Lemon, but that's not right. As pointed out, you can be refused your custom without reason.

Currently most petrol stations refuse cheques. Try filling your tank up with fuel, and driving away when they refuse to take the cheque. Or try taking a £1000 tv from john lewis when they refuse to take payment in 1p coins.....

£1000 in coins isn't legal tender, only up to a certain amount is and in coppers i don't know if it's even £1

[Jabberwocky]

I am sure it is something like a maximum of 150 coins... I think it was a pub quiz question so might need proving

[LRW]

Any seller has the right to refuse to sell to you without reason, the only time they can't is when services have already been given, like if you've eaten in a restaurant, they can't refuse scottish notes.

not true, if you present legal tender and a shop refuses it, you legally have the right to just take the product as you offered payment of what they where asking with legal money. Also not true that Scottish and Northern Ireland dosh is not legal tender, it's just pounds with some fancy colours on.

Sorry Lemon, but that's not right. As pointed out, you can be refused your custom without reason.

Currently most petrol stations refuse cheques. Try filling your tank up with fuel, and driving away when they refuse to take the cheque. Or try taking a £1000 tv from john lewis when they refuse to take payment in 1p coins.....

£1000 in coins isn't legal tender, only up to a certain amount is and in coppers i don't know if it's even £1

Ok, maybe so, but your initial point is still incorrect.

From the bank of England website

Are Scottish & Northern Ireland notes "legal tender"?
In short ‘No’ these notes are not "legal tender"; furthermore, Bank of England notes are only legal tender in England and Wales. Legal tender has, however, a very narrow technical meaning in relation to the settlement of debt. If a debtor pays in legal tender the exact amount he/she owes under the terms of a contract (and in accordance with its terms), or pays this amount into court, he/she has good defence in law if he/she is sued for non-payment of the debt.
In ordinary everyday transactions, the term "legal tender" in its purest sense need not govern a note's acceptability in transactions. The acceptability of a Scottish or Northern Ireland note as a means of payment is essentially a matter for agreement between the parties involved. If both parties are in agreement, Scottish and Northern Ireland notes can be used in England and Wales. Holders of genuine Scottish and Northern Ireland notes are provided with a level of protection similar to that provided to holders of Bank of England notes. This is because the issuing banks must back their note issue using a combination of Bank of England notes, UK coin and funds in an interest bearing bank account at the Bank of England. More information on these arrangements can be found at
http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/Pages/about/
scottish_northernireland.aspx

[stonemonkey]

Any seller has the right to refuse to sell to you without reason, the only time they can't is when services have already been given, like if you've eaten in a restaurant, they can't refuse scottish notes.

not true, if you present legal tender and a shop refuses it, you legally have the right to just take the product as you offered payment of what they where asking with legal money. Also not true that Scottish and Northern Ireland dosh is not legal tender, it's just pounds with some fancy colours on.

Sorry Lemon, but that's not right. As pointed out, you can be refused your custom without reason.

Currently most petrol stations refuse cheques. Try filling your tank up with fuel, and driving away when they refuse to take the cheque. Or try taking a £1000 tv from john lewis when they refuse to take payment in 1p coins.....

£1000 in coins isn't legal tender, only up to a certain amount is and in coppers i don't know if it's even £1

Ok, maybe so, but your initial point is still incorrect.

From the bank of England website

Are Scottish & Northern Ireland notes "legal tender"?
In short ‘No’ these notes are not "legal tender"; furthermore, Bank of England notes are only legal tender in England and Wales. Legal tender has, however, a very narrow technical meaning in relation to the settlement of debt. If a debtor pays in legal tender the exact amount he/she owes under the terms of a contract (and in accordance with its terms), or pays this amount into court, he/she has good defence in law if he/she is sued for non-payment of the debt.
In ordinary everyday transactions, the term "legal tender" in its purest sense need not govern a note's acceptability in transactions. The acceptability of a Scottish or Northern Ireland note as a means of payment is essentially a matter for agreement between the parties involved. If both parties are in agreement, Scottish and Northern Ireland notes can be used in England and Wales. Holders of genuine Scottish and Northern Ireland notes are provided with a level of protection similar to that provided to holders of Bank of England notes. This is because the issuing banks must back their note issue using a combination of Bank of England notes, UK coin and funds in an interest bearing bank account at the Bank of England. More information on these arrangements can be found at
http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/Pages/about/
scottish_northernireland.aspx

Which point?

[LRW]

Ok, maybe so, but your initial point is still incorrect.

From the bank of England website

Are Scottish & Northern Ireland notes "legal tender"?
In short ‘No’ these notes are not "legal tender"; furthermore, Bank of England notes are only legal tender in England and Wales. Legal tender has, however, a very narrow technical meaning in relation to the settlement of debt. If a debtor pays in legal tender the exact amount he/she owes under the terms of a contract (and in accordance with its terms), or pays this amount into court, he/she has good defence in law if he/she is sued for non-payment of the debt.
In ordinary everyday transactions, the term "legal tender" in its purest sense need not govern a note's acceptability in transactions. The acceptability of a Scottish or Northern Ireland note as a means of payment is essentially a matter for agreement between the parties involved. If both parties are in agreement, Scottish and Northern Ireland notes can be used in England and Wales. Holders of genuine Scottish and Northern Ireland notes are provided with a level of protection similar to that provided to holders of Bank of England notes. This is because the issuing banks must back their note issue using a combination of Bank of England notes, UK coin and funds in an interest bearing bank account at the Bank of England. More information on these arrangements can be found at
http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/Pages/about/
scottish_northernireland.aspx

Which point?

Sorry Stonemonkey, I meant 1lemons original point, that you can just walk off with goods if they refuse to take the payment offered. And, now, also his point about Scottish and NI notes being legal tender (see Bank of England quote above - this i didn't know until I just looked it up)

[stonemonkey]

ah ok, was confused there, that's nothing new though.

[LRW]

So - Should Queen Elizabeth II follow the example set by Queen (now Princess) Beatrix of the Netherlands?

[LewEngBridewell]

So - Should Queen Elizabeth II follow the example set by Queen (now Princess) Beatrix of the Netherlands?

She still shows no sign of slowing down...

[LRW]

So - Should Queen Elizabeth II follow the example set by Queen (now Princess) Beatrix of the Netherlands?

She still shows no sign of slowing down...

Yep. She is going to keep going like her mum. RoboQueen (or is that DD's nickname ?)

[andrew]

Yes she should resign.

But then I'm not a royalist. They're kind of surplus to requirements in this day and age, especially when we have elected officials to run the show. I mean what is the point of having a Royal family? What do they do all day?

[LewEngBridewell]

Love the profile of the person whose birthday it is today. An account called "Brawn GP - WTF?" and a signature that says "Ferrari SUCKS".

Ahh folks, that's passion right there.

[andrew]

Only 3 posts though.

[LewEngBridewell]

Only 3 posts though.

He seemed to be a Vettel fan, according to his 2nd post. You could've been best matesssss

[andrew]

Only 3 posts though.

He seemed to be a Vettel fan, according to his 2nd post. You could've been best matesssss

Das ist verboten!

I think I'm the only Vettel fan left.

[LewEngBridewell]

Only 3 posts though.

He seemed to be a Vettel fan, according to his 2nd post. You could've been best matesssss

Das ist verboten!

I think I'm the only Vettel fan left.

I don't support him as a driver, but I've always ummed and ahhh'd about whether it'd be worth whisking him under my counterpane at some point