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[What's Burning?]

Conservative racing just isn't as 'fun' to watch, I'm being selfish. The big problem is that it's become so profoundly critical with pitstops to get it right or you're screwed and it really painful to watch a driver lose a race or a handful of positions because of a bad pitstop or two.

But, do you not remember fuel rig problems? Pretty common and had the same effect...

I'm nitpicking... give me some gaaddamn qualifying tires and I'll be happy.

[racechick]

Pirelli say Barcelona will be more productive to teams because Jerez was too abrasive

[racechick]

So how did we allow this to happen? When did we become circus performers just putting on a show instead of F1 drivers racing flat out? so spoke a current F1 driver at the drivers briefing last weekend. On the other side f the coin, without the pirelli's the red bulls would likely be away down the road....but would that be better or worse than this artificially contrived parade we have? Mark Hughes has written an article about it and he concludes thus.........

'Personally I feel f1 should be the ultimate, a test to find out and reward the all-out fastest. If it means that occasionally that kills the entertainment of those only casually interested,then the casually interested are free to be entertained some other way. Their whims shouldn't be allowed to pollute the sport. But it can't always be a sport. It signed a pact when it started taking huge quantities of money from the outside world- and the drivers are deriving their salaries from the pact.'

Couldn't agree more Mark. I'd rather the Red Bulls be down the road than this artificial farce with drivers going round slowly. It's a sad indictment on the sport...yet still we watch, still we love it

[What's Burning?]

Interesting quote from Vettel.

"I think in China to be fair we weren't quick enough. Also on one lap in qualifying we weren't quick enough to really challenge for pole position therefore fairly early we decided on a different strategy. For sure with these tyres I think if you look in particular in the race you have to focus more on managing the tyres and achieving a certain lap target to make them last. You can't really push lap-by-lap, so you always have to drive under the car and under the tyres in order to make your strategy work. To be fair it has been the case a little bit last year as well but surely it's a bit more extreme again this year.

The pinnacle of racing... needing to keep the car well below its limits so you can manage a tire made out of aged cottage cheese apparently.

[Hammer278]

So how did we allow this to happen? When did we become circus performers just putting on a show instead of F1 drivers racing flat out? so spoke a current F1 driver at the drivers briefing last weekend. On the other side f the coin, without the pirelli's the red bulls would likely be away down the road....but would that be better or worse than this artificially contrived parade we have? Mark Hughes has written an article about it and he concludes thus.........

'Personally I feel f1 should be the ultimate, a test to find out and reward the all-out fastest. If it means that occasionally that kills the entertainment of those only casually interested,then the casually interested are free to be entertained some other way. Their whims shouldn't be allowed to pollute the sport. But it can't always be a sport. It signed a pact when it started taking huge quantities of money from the outside world- and the drivers are deriving their salaries from the pact.'

Couldn't agree more Mark. I'd rather the Red Bulls be down the road than this artificial farce with drivers going round slowly. It's a sad indictment on the sport...yet still we watch, still we love it

It's like taking pure weed n lacing it with blow, the feelings are different we know it, but if you're into its tough to walk away.

[racechick]

So how did we allow this to happen? When did we become circus performers just putting on a show instead of F1 drivers racing flat out? so spoke a current F1 driver at the drivers briefing last weekend. On the other side f the coin, without the pirelli's the red bulls would likely be away down the road....but would that be better or worse than this artificially contrived parade we have? Mark Hughes has written an article about it and he concludes thus.........

'Personally I feel f1 should be the ultimate, a test to find out and reward the all-out fastest. If it means that occasionally that kills the entertainment of those only casually interested,then the casually interested are free to be entertained some other way. Their whims shouldn't be allowed to pollute the sport. But it can't always be a sport. It signed a pact when it started taking huge quantities of money from the outside world- and the drivers are deriving their salaries from the pact.'

Couldn't agree more Mark. I'd rather the Red Bulls be down the road than this artificial farce with drivers going round slowly. It's a sad indictment on the sport...yet still we watch, still we love it

It's like taking pure weed n lacing it with blow, the feelings are different we know it, but if you're into its tough to walk away.

It's impossible to walk away goddamit!!!!

[What's Burning?]

It's like taking pure weed n lacing it with blow, the feelings are different we know it, but if you're into its tough to walk away.

I think you'd have to be on blow and weed to come up with an analogy like that!

[LRW]

Pirelli introduce more durable hard tyre into range from Spanish GP

Pirelli have responded to concerns over the durability of their 2013 tyres by announcing that they will make changes to their range - but only to the hard compound.

The Italian manufacturer on Tuesday conducted a review of their tyres' performance during the opening four races of the campaign with the firm having been under pressure to make changes to their range following controversy over the high degradation levels being experienced with the new season's rubber.

And as part of their expected announcement for which compounds they will bring to the opening rounds of the European season, Pirelli confirmed they would introduce a more durable hard compound from the next race in Spain which is more in line with its 2012 equivalent.

"After evaluating tyre performance over the balance of the first four races, we took the decision - in consultation with all of the teams - to change the hard compound from Spain onwards, as we did in Barcelona two years ago when we also introduced a new hard tyre for the rest of the season," Pirelli's motorsport boss Paul Hembery said in a statement.

"This latest version of the hard compound is much closer to the 2012 tyre, with the aim of giving the teams more opportunity to run a wider range of strategies in combination with the other compounds, which remain unchanged."

The new-look hard tyre will be paired with the existing medium compound for the Spanish event, with the usual selection of supersoft and soft for the following round on the tight and twisty streets of Monaco.

The Canadian GP in June, however, will feature a two-step compound gap for the first time with the supersoft and medium being selected.

It remains to be seen whether Pirelli's decision to tweak only one of their compounds for the remainder of the season - and only the hitherto hardest tyre in any case - will completely pacify the more outspoken critics of their 2013 tyres.

Speaking in wake of Sebastian Vettel's dominant victory in Bahrain last Sunday, Red Bull chief Christian Horner continued to insist that the tyres were still "too on an edge" with the World Champions believed to have previously pushed for the Pirelli to bring back its complete 2012 range.

[Jabberwocky]

Jist heard on the radio that pirelli are selling an F1 car on ebay

[What's Burning?]

Jist heard on the radio that pirelli are selling an F1 car on ebay

The old Toyota they used for testing the first year?

[LRW]

Jist heard on the radio that pirelli are selling an F1 car on ebay

Feck! Lets all chip in and buy it. Bagsie first go!

[1Lemon]

You don't want it, it's HRT http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/04/20/oukoe-uk-motor-racing-prix-pirelli-hrt-idUKBRE93J0DA20130420

[LRW]

You don't want it, it's HRT http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/04/20/oukoe-uk-motor-racing-prix-pirelli-hrt-idUKBRE93J0DA20130420

And it's got no engine! That'll have no effect on the HRTs performance though I suppose.....

[stonemonkey]

I dunno which would be worse, being stuck with the same range of performance limiting and sometimes unpredictable tyres or having to learn how the next set of newly introduced tyres work all over again.

[What's Burning?]

Can only work better.