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[racechick]

That was an interesting read!! Lots I didn't know in there.

[CookinFlat6]

It would be a massively expensive and risky gamble. Supplying engines to a couple of teams didnt pay off for Cosworth. mclaren, with little expertise in engine tooling would have to turn around Cosworth, and find more teams to supply, at a time when Ferrari and Renault have engines that work well and are also after customer business
Funny how those who are so happy with McLaren being a pure racing team start to realise that only by being a mass producer of cars or engines can one hope to fund an F1 team

Ron is way too smart to create such a rod in his back

surely?

I dunno if rather have a middle eastern royal family with all their oil money over 60% of Daimler funding my team. Mercs not very committed are they!

McLaren had to pay out a 20 mill dividend last year. Not sure middle eastern royal families about to fund you with hundreds of millions to buy a decrepit engine maker would need to draw dividends.

Anyway, you ever heard of the Arab spring?, you heard that in Saudi they now let women in politics?

Yup, the Middle East rich royal families splashing the nations cash over things like fast cars while the people go hungry is coming to an end as fast as Daimlers turnover increasing

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[What's Burning?]

There are Arab investors everywhere, not just limited to F1, so you're way out on a limb singling out McLaren with that one.

[andrew]

Don't forget andrew, Eddie Jordan was the man who PREDICTED LEWIS HAMILTON'S JOURNEY TO MERC!!!!!!!!! The man is a genius. The male Mystic Meg.

He had a 50/50 chance of correctly guessing one of the worst kept secrets of the 2012/2013 Silly Season. it was hardly the work of a genius! Assume that someone is leaving their team, work out the most likely team as many others did and bingo. I'm not taken in with his act.

[scotty]

Don't forget andrew, Eddie Jordan was the man who PREDICTED LEWIS HAMILTON'S JOURNEY TO MERC!!!!!!!!! The man is a genius. The male Mystic Meg.

He had a 50/50 chance of correctly guessing one of the worst kept secrets of the 2012/2013 Silly Season. it was hardly the work of a genius! Assume that someone is leaving their team, work out the most likely team as many others did and bingo. I'm not taken in with his act.

Er, it was "one of the worst kept secrets" of 2012 cause he called it so early and got everyone talking about it.

[racechick]

Nice take here on how Hill sees the Mercedes situation.
http://www.planetf1.com/driver/3213/852 ... F1+News%29

How things pan out, we'll have to wait and see. But one thing I think is for certain, those people who said Mercedes weren't serious about this, about success, about being at the top, were well wide of the mark! I think their intent is clear.

[Jabberwocky]

If Brawn is going to move aside to let Lowe in it will not happen until the end of the years, unless they upset Brawn

[racechick]

Yes agreed. And much as I can see the advantage of having Lowe on board, I'd rather Brawn stuck around for all of next year. For the continuity. And also I think he'll be brill at working with Lewis. All the sound bites from him regarding Lewis have been spot on. He's an excellent manager.

[acosmichippo]

Yep, soundbites. True measure of an F1 manager.

[andrew]

Don't forget andrew, Eddie Jordan was the man who PREDICTED LEWIS HAMILTON'S JOURNEY TO MERC!!!!!!!!! The man is a genius. The male Mystic Meg.

He had a 50/50 chance of correctly guessing one of the worst kept secrets of the 2012/2013 Silly Season. it was hardly the work of a genius! Assume that someone is leaving their team, work out the most likely team as many others did and bingo. I'm not taken in with his act.

Er, it was "one of the worst kept secrets" of 2012 cause he called it so early and got everyone talking about it.

He only repeated what was already known. He is to F1 broadcasting what the black death was to life expectancy.

But let's just agree to disagree on Eddie Jordan and move on.

[CookinFlat6]

How do you manage to drag these things off the original point so much,

EJ has to be listened to in light of what he has ascertained which have come true, doesn't matter about guess etc.

Maybe you forgot that it was EJ who broke the news of MS returning? 2 correct improbable assertions like that makes the guess/no guess issue irrelevant

[What's Burning?]

I love EJ and I've never even seen the man work. Best on the BBC.

[CookinFlat6]

I love EJ and I've never even seen the man work. Best on the BBC.

yeah, everyone loves EJ, until they have to see and listen to him every race weekend on the Bbc,



He can be an irritating ****

[racechick]

Yep, soundbites. True measure of an F1 manager.

Ok , try , 'things he has said which clearly show he understands the driver he is dealing with and how to get the best out of him' that better than sound bites?

[What's Burning?]

As part of the six week training curriculum we had to take to become a moderator here, there's an entire week long module on dealing with irritating personalities.