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[racechick]

What refreshing reads!! After some of the crap we had to endure last year about how Lewis was 'only learning' how to lead a team. Lowe is impressed. I thought he was, and yet I read somewhere he wasn't, I'm glad that was wrong! He clearly knows how Lewis ticks. He must have been tearing his hair out during the wasted seven weeks sorting out grip problems when he could have been fighting with Red Bull and Ferrari. And Brawn too. He realises what Lewis can offer besides his huge skill. Lewisnhas SOOOO made the right move!! Thanks for those posts guys. loved them

[Hammer278]

If there was any doubt in any Lewis fans' mind that he might have made the wrong move, it should be scrapped IMO. I'm sure given the drivers' hunger, mentality combined with a team which believes in its drivers and has the infrastructure, there is no way but forward. Lewis knows what the McLaren feels like, and Merc has a direction to head towards now. Rosberg has never tasted a winning car and Old Man Schumi was out of commission for 4 years he probably doesn't even know what modern cars on Pirelli should feel like.

The car is no lemon...Lewis has had worse, like 2009. It's already proven very reliable (a wire and a brake issue can't count) and now it's about getting the car up to speed. Fantastic year ahead of us, Lewis fans.

[racechick]

WOW!! I just read the whole of this
http://mccabism.blogspot.co.uk/2009/11/ ... ility.html
It puts into technical terms why I support Lewis Hamilton.

So in laymans terms( or layladys terms in my case ) turn in can induce something In a car which if not corrected will cause a spin, but generally Lewis corrects it instinctively. Other drivers can't cope. I am speechless after reading that article at how McLaren squandered that talent. I just don't understand it. But if thats how Paddy feels he must be distraught at losing Lewis. I don't think he'll stay.

[Hammer278]

Lowe is out of McLaren. He didn't attend the launch, and McLaren has confirmed the "future is not certain". He's out, and it's just a matter of time before he leaves them and joins forces with the up and coming in Formula 1.

[stonemonkey]

WOW!! I just read the whole of this
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12471&start=195
It puts into technical terms why I support Lewis Hamilton.

So in laymans terms( or layladys terms in my case ) turn in can induce something In a car which if not corrected will cause a spin, but generally Lewis corrects it instinctively. Other drivers can't cope. I am speechless after reading that article at how McLaren squandered that talent. I just don't understand it. But if thats how Paddy feels he must be distraught at losing Lewis. I don't think he'll stay.

Is that the right link?

[racechick]

WOW!! I just read the whole of this
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12471&start=195
It puts into technical terms why I support Lewis Hamilton.

So in laymans terms( or layladys terms in my case ) turn in can induce something In a car which if not corrected will cause a spin, but generally Lewis corrects it instinctively. Other drivers can't cope. I am speechless after reading that article at how McLaren squandered that talent. I just don't understand it. But if thats how Paddy feels he must be distraught at losing Lewis. I don't think he'll stay.

Is that the right link?

No it's the wrong link. This is the right link
http://mccabism.blogspot.co.uk/2009/11/ ... ility.html.
I blame driving down through France all day
I'll just go change that link

[stonemonkey]

thanks.

I think Alonso's another who can deal with it but in a different way and that was part of Massa's problem.

[f1boy]

Looking forward to the new season. Everyone and his dog knows Lewis is the fastest driver on the grid.
He has pure talent and Merc has plenty of resources. This is going to be a great partnership imo.

Button can't cut it imo. Lewis is by far and away the most naturally talented driver on the grid imo.

[CookinFlat6]

thanks.

I think Alonso's another who can deal with it but in a different way and that was part of Massa's problem.

yeah Alonso is the other that can deal with this, and I think thats why people sometimes refer to Fred and Lewis as the only drivers getting 100% and more out of a car. 100% is for a car thats stable and not in danger of losing controllabilty, the normal driver therefore can only drive a car setup to be controllable in the most demanding corner on the track - that sets the limit for the whole track, including easier corners.

Those 2 can have their cars setup and developed at the edge of the performance envelopes, (without the ''Driving Miss Daisy' requirement) beyond the stability limit for the most demanding corner meaning that its plain quicker in the easier corners

Having said that, Alonso can handle it but does not like it at all, whereas Lewis relishes it and just assumes everyone has the same inate talent and gets on with it.

Then you got the Seb, who doesnt like it either, could probably deal with it but doesnt need to deal with it because his car has so much balance, mechanical and aero that he can afford to setup around it.

Then you got the b*tches, who have to go round with understeer induced because they dont know how to prevent a car swapping ends in a corner, who then blame the car for bnot having enough grip, when simply they are not able to drive it faster without losing it.

probably generalising a bit there but Alonso and Lewis regularly get more than 100% out of a car safe enough for other drivers

[bud]

If there was any doubt in any Lewis fans' mind that he might have made the wrong move, it should be scrapped IMO. I'm sure given the drivers' hunger, mentality combined with a team which believes in its drivers and has the infrastructure, there is no way but forward. Lewis knows what the McLaren feels like, and Merc has a direction to head towards now. Rosberg has never tasted a winning car and Old Man Schumi was out of commission for 4 years he probably doesn't even know what modern cars on Pirelli should feel like.

The car is no lemon...Lewis has had worse, like 2009. It's already proven very reliable (a wire and a brake issue can't count) and now it's about getting the car up to speed. Fantastic year ahead of us, Lewis fans.

Are you going on and on with this theme because you're trying to convince yourself? I find it funny that a hungry Mercedes-Benz (with so much cash behind them as we are constantly told, though that didnt help Toyota) wanting only 60% ownership of an F1 team. That's only 20% more involvement than with McLaren!

[LRW]

If there was any doubt in any Lewis fans' mind that he might have made the wrong move, it should be scrapped IMO. I'm sure given the drivers' hunger, mentality combined with a team which believes in its drivers and has the infrastructure, there is no way but forward. Lewis knows what the McLaren feels like, and Merc has a direction to head towards now. Rosberg has never tasted a winning car and Old Man Schumi was out of commission for 4 years he probably doesn't even know what modern cars on Pirelli should feel like.

The car is no lemon...Lewis has had worse, like 2009. It's already proven very reliable (a wire and a brake issue can't count) and now it's about getting the car up to speed. Fantastic year ahead of us, Lewis fans.

Are you going on and on with this theme because you're trying to convince yourself? I find it funny that a hungry Mercedes-Benz (with so much cash behind them as we are constantly told, though that didnt help Toyota) wanting only 60% ownership of an F1 team. That's only 20% more involvement than with McLaren!

And this is what I don't understand about you bud. You come into a Lewis support thread, find a Lewis fan, writing a positive post about Lewis. And you just slag the fan off.

Are you broken or something?

[bud]

Oh please talk about hypocrisy, where's your criticism of the precious bunch who do the exact same thing in McLaren or Button, sh!t dare I say any thread?

Lewis fans are a funny bunch, remove your blinkers!

[spankyham]

If there was any doubt in any Lewis fans' mind that he might have made the wrong move, it should be scrapped IMO. I'm sure given the drivers' hunger, mentality combined with a team which believes in its drivers and has the infrastructure, there is no way but forward. Lewis knows what the McLaren feels like, and Merc has a direction to head towards now. Rosberg has never tasted a winning car and Old Man Schumi was out of commission for 4 years he probably doesn't even know what modern cars on Pirelli should feel like.

The car is no lemon...Lewis has had worse, like 2009. It's already proven very reliable (a wire and a brake issue can't count) and now it's about getting the car up to speed. Fantastic year ahead of us, Lewis fans.

Are you going on and on with this theme because you're trying to convince yourself? I find it funny that a hungry Mercedes-Benz (with so much cash behind them as we are constantly told, though that didnt help Toyota) wanting only 60% ownership of an F1 team. That's only 20% more involvement than with McLaren!

Once you have control/majority shareholding, there is less point to holding more of the stock. Allowing key people to have minority shareholdings is a common method to provide incentive to those small shareholders to be good employees. Its no different to the Bahrain Royal family (owners of McLaren) who left a smaller minority shareholding with Ron.

[Hammer278]

If there was any doubt in any Lewis fans' mind that he might have made the wrong move, it should be scrapped IMO. I'm sure given the drivers' hunger, mentality combined with a team which believes in its drivers and has the infrastructure, there is no way but forward. Lewis knows what the McLaren feels like, and Merc has a direction to head towards now. Rosberg has never tasted a winning car and Old Man Schumi was out of commission for 4 years he probably doesn't even know what modern cars on Pirelli should feel like.

The car is no lemon...Lewis has had worse, like 2009. It's already proven very reliable (a wire and a brake issue can't count) and now it's about getting the car up to speed. Fantastic year ahead of us, Lewis fans.

Are you going on and on with this theme because you're trying to convince yourself? I find it funny that a hungry Mercedes-Benz (with so much cash behind them as we are constantly told, though that didnt help Toyota) wanting only 60% ownership of an F1 team. That's only 20% more involvement than with McLaren!

And this is what I don't understand about you bud. You come into a Lewis support thread, find a Lewis fan, writing a positive post about Lewis. And you just slag the fan off.

Are you broken or something?

The guy is in depression...fan of a team being stuck with a 2nd rate driver like Button and Lowe leaving, and a fired Williams guy being advisor to a giggling team boss who's sole interest is in disturbingly good looking staff...how many KEY people have joined the team since the fired Williams guy? Oh right, their best driver leaving, and a key senior member leaving. McLaren's only way is downwards from here on in. So I'd give bud some slack.

[LRW]

Oh please talk about hypocrisy, where's your criticism of the precious bunch who do the exact same thing in McLaren or Button, sh!t dare I say any thread?

Lewis fans are a funny bunch, remove your blinkers!

Because bud, I tend not to hang round in other driver support threads too much. Unlike you.

I think you really need to look at your own actions before criticizing others.....

And that's all I am going to say on the matter. I refuse to get drawn into a vicious boring repetitive argument..... You know, the kind you always manage to be involved in.