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Nürburgring in doubt
I'm in, I'm out, I'm in, I'm out - feels like Anne Heche
WTF? I remember in the olden days, there was hardly EVER any doubt about the calendar - very few years where there was an asterisk for one of the races. Now the old coot can't seem to get his act together anymore EVERY fooking year!!!
Nürburgring in doubt
I'm in, I'm out, I'm in, I'm out - feels like Anne Heche
WTF? I remember in the olden days, there was hardly EVER any doubt about the calendar - very few years where there was an asterisk for one of the races. Now the old coot can't seem to get his act together anymore EVERY fooking year!!!
I think it's too much, too long. Racing until december. They are humans, after all.
I think it's too much, too long. Racing until december. They are humans, after all.
I am not one to spit at the athletic ability needed by Formula 1 drivers. I defend them to no end when someone tries to claim they have to work like crazy to keep in shape.
However, when their actual duty when it comes time for the spot light, I feel 20 races is pretty close light weight.
Compare to say, Basketball Players, who play 70+ games then the playoffs, sometimes 2-3 times a week. Sure they get a half time break, but they are still exerting themselves for longer periods over a season.
I say 26 would be the maximum. half of the year. is racing.
Formula 1 - Portugal, France interested in 20th slot
Formula 1 chief Bernie Ecclestone says the 2013 calendar could still include 20 races, with France and Portugal showing interest to host the event.
The calendar was modified by the FIA at the end of last year to make room for a European race on July 21.
Venues like the Red Bull Ring in Austria or Istanbul in Turkey were linked to the slot, but their chances seem to have evaporated and Ecclestone said in December that he expected the calendar to include just 19 events.
Ecclestone now says talks are still ongoing about a possible deal to have 20 races, and revealed the Algarve circuit in Portugal has now entered the frame.
"To be honest, I don't know," said Ecclestone when asked about plans for the July 21 slot.
"There is interest still in France, and now also in Portugal. They want to do it at the new Algarve track.
"For Germany, it would be Nurburgring. Let's see if they can put it together."
Ecclestone admitted, however, that the race was unlikely to be added to the calendar as Formula 1 teams were not keen to have an extra GP.
He added: "If someone wants to have the 20th race, it will happen, if the track is there and okay. We can help [with] organising.
"However, the teams do not seem to be in favour of this race. I doubt it will happen."
The Briton also insisted the calendar will not be expanded beyond 20 races in the future, despite several countries wanting to join.
"No. Twenty [is] the maximum amount," he said.
The Nurburgring was supposed to host this year's event as part of an alternation plan agreed with Hockenheim, but financial problems at the venue meant there was no guarantee it could fund the race.
Following weeks of talks to try to agree terms, Ecclestone has now indicated that a deal does not look like happening.
Speaking to German publication Spiegel, Ecclestone said: "After due consideration of their proposal we believe it is regrettably not financially acceptable, so we have terminated our negotiations."
The German GP's fate may now rest on Ecclestone sorting out a deal with Hockenheim, which hosted last year's race.
Should that plan not come off, then the F1 calendar could be reduced to just 18 races - with plans for a 20th event having not reached fruition.
Turkey, Austria and Portugal were all linked with that vacant slot – which has been pencilled in for July 21 – but there has been no indication of a venue getting the green light.
If Germany does not take place, then it means there will be just one race – the Hungarian GP on July 28 – between the British GP on June 30 and the Belgian GP on August 25.
The Nurburgring was supposed to host this year's event as part of an alternation plan agreed with Hockenheim, but financial problems at the venue meant there was no guarantee it could fund the race.
Following weeks of talks to try to agree terms, Ecclestone has now indicated that a deal does not look like happening.
Speaking to German publication Spiegel, Ecclestone said: "After due consideration of their proposal we believe it is regrettably not financially acceptable, so we have terminated our negotiations."
The German GP's fate may now rest on Ecclestone sorting out a deal with Hockenheim, which hosted last year's race.
Should that plan not come off, then the F1 calendar could be reduced to just 18 races - with plans for a 20th event having not reached fruition.
Turkey, Austria and Portugal were all linked with that vacant slot – which has been pencilled in for July 21 – but there has been no indication of a venue getting the green light.
If Germany does not take place, then it means there will be just one race – the Hungarian GP on July 28 – between the British GP on June 30 and the Belgian GP on August 25.
The last time we didn't have a race in Germany was in 1955.
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