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[vaptin]

It's not just Ferrari who do it though, just them who gets noticed.

[andrew]

They are by far the worst offenders though.

[hirstes]

I would like to see a choice between DRS and KERS, you have one or the other but not both. i think that would bring more strategy to the table and interesting to see who would go for what.

toro rosso to be disbanded or to be a complete independant entity or to drop down to GP2 it is not fair for red bull to have 4 cars on the grid whether you call them a "sister" company or not.

less regulation and more innovation. i think its asinine that teams come out with new technologies and then they get banned and forgotten. why not make them madatory for the next season?

and finally for the FiA to say screw the green movement and bring back high revving V-12's and for them to stop slowing the cars down, i thought racing was supposed to go forward and not backward. i mean look at all the lap records and they are from the mid 2000's. i thought the pinnacle of racing was supposed to progress through technology and push the boundaries of what was thought as technically possible and not be stagnant, "oh i think this is a good pace, any faster and its not cool" what the hell kind of thinking is that?!

[andrew]

toro rosso to be disbanded or to be a complete independant entity or to drop down to GP2 it is not fair for red bull to have 4 cars on the grid whether you call them a "sister" company or not.

Why? No rules are being broken. There is nothing to stop other teams from running a B-team. I would say it's no worse than so-called "technical partnerships" between certain teams. Fairness is totally irrelevant (one persons fair is anothers unjust).

[hirstes]

i know no rules are being broken it just seems to me that they are there, just to be there, always fighting for the mid-field and never trying to progress into the top of the field. i just cant see them actually attempting to be a top constructor just because red bull is there. now whether or not red bull would allow them to be in the mix at the front is up for debate, id like to think that they would because it has happened in the past but with red bulls recent dominance i just dont know and it is because of that i think they shouldn't be on the grid.

[andrew]

Torro Rosso used to be Minardi. Now tell me they've not moved forward. They may have the same parent company but as far as I now they are run as 2 seperate entities, albeit with some privlidges extended to them by RBR, which is no worse than some of the technical partnerships that exist.

[hirstes]

but i dont see them going forward even more than this. i think they are like the porsche cayman and red bull is the 911, the cayman can be faster than the 911 but detuned to be slower because the 911 is a 911. that toro rosso could go all the way but are being held back.

[andrew]

Would you say the same if we were talking about a McLaren B-team? As I said, they are run separately.

[LRW]

I agree with Andrew. They are completely independent teams, who have the same parent company.

RBR get no more benefit out of Torro Rosso, than the other big teams get out if technical relationships with smaller teams.

[LewEngBridewell]

On the subject of teams, I'd love to see the costs of competing get drastically lowered, to encourage more privateers.

I'd also like to see Caterham and Marussia make serious progress next season.

[stonemonkey]

As a McLaren fan, I obviously regard Ferrari as a fierce rival. But that's a good thing... it's sport after all.

There's that to it but their constant antics of lobbying to get everything they didn't think of banned is terribly unsporting and very tiresome.

If that's the way you feel then what better way to beat them than on track is there? btw, imo all teams play the same games, just in slightly different ways.

[hirstes]

I agree with Andrew. They are completely independent teams, who have the same parent company.

RBR get no more benefit out of Torro Rosso, than the other big teams get out if technical relationships with smaller teams.

so then does red bull not use torro rosso as a "feedern team"? kind of a way to test young drivers throughout a season, using the team as a loop hole to the miniscule in season testing? i always thought that they did but i could be wrong. truth be told i have only been seriously into F1 for the past 2 years. always been a fan but only watched the occasional race from here to there.

and i would be saying the same thing about a mclaren "b" team because "b" teams dont need to be taking up grid spots they need to be open to give other teams an opportunity to break into F1

[SoCalWJS]

I'm sure it's been mentioned somewhere before.

Make the formula far more flexible with respect to engines - give them all a set amount of fuel and let the teams decide how to get there. Turbos? Sure. Superchargers? You betcha. Bigger engines with more cylinders? No problem. - But you've got to finish the race on x litres of fuel with 1 litre left for analysis at the end.

More testing. They got too restrictive. I know they want to get costs down, but do some other way. How about an oversight group to monitor the finances so that the money goes back into the sport, not Bernie & Co's back pocket?

A righteous U.S. Team and driver (OK, I know - not gonna happen)

MORE technology and speed!

[darwin dali]

A righteous U.S. Team and driver (OK, I know - not gonna happen)

You're sooo cute

[SoCalWJS]

A righteous U.S. Team and driver (OK, I know - not gonna happen)

You're sooo cute

It's just sad - I can't even think of a likely candidate. In the back of my mind, I think of the fact that the Austin GP looks like it's here for the long haul, and there are a bunch of Texans with money that are into motorsports. There's just got to be a possibilty in there someplace.