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By texasmr2
#34184
and its hilarious you Ferrari <EDITED FOR CONTENT> taking digs at McLaren when you act as though your team is so sporting and honest
Go look in the mirror before you accuse teams of cheating!
stupid f***s :twisted:

There you go again bud with the childish name calling :roll: !

and again you CANT use lamb in a McLaren context as its used in a Ferrari context to describe someone who follows the herd and there is a s*** load of Ferrari lambs.

A lamb is a lamb no matter what team they support.
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By bud
#34185
notice the s on f***s thats means to ALL so if thats name calling then so is calling supporters lambs ;)
so you saying a fan of super aguri can be a lamb when there is only one in the herd?

Tex if you have ever been to a gp you would understand, Ferrari w**kers everywhere you look. Lambs following the herd everyone else goes for them i will too.
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By texasmr2
#34187
I'm not basing being a lamb on the number's I'm just basing it on being a fan.
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By f1ea
#34188
i didn't give much thought to the rumours about Dennis... until reading something about him and the team giving statements about his position. Now I am really suspicious and I think Dennis has 2 seasons at the most as Mclaren principal. That is, inless Lewis does something extraordinary this season...

truth is... Dennis is Mclaren. But Enzo was Ferrari too, and look where Ferrari is without him... so why the big fuss??
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By McLaren Fan
#34191
If they loose well we all know what it means - You will get your bold 2008 ready for your footer. :wink:

If McLaren don't win the title by fair means next season I won't need to update my signature. If there is the usual jigery pokery from Ferrari-FIA et al. which costs McLaren the title then I'll be putting a nice 2008 in bold on my signature. Anyway tifosi, continue to enjoy your hard-earned titles... :roll:
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By texasmr2
#34193
If McLaren don't win the title by fair means next season I won't need to update my signature. If there is the usual jigery pokery from Ferrari-FIA et al. which costs McLaren the title then I'll be putting a nice 2008 in bold on my signature.

How can you constantly blame the FIA and Ferrari for McLaren's misdeed's? McLaren cost themselve's the WCC title nobody else is to blame it's that simple. If the role's were reversed I would just be saying "oh well they got caught and paid the price time to move on and I hope they learned a lesson".



Anyway tifosi, continue to enjoy your hard-earned titles... :roll:

Dont think for a minute that McLaren would have turned down the WCC if the role's were reversed.
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By racechick
#34199
McLaren arent liked by the powers that be, Ferrari are loved by the powers that be and sit on the governing body.The FIA are corrupt, All that is fact. However you look at it McLaren have to do a lot more than have the best car and driver to win. This is why McLaren fan's get insensed when the whole team is called cheats(rather than the 3 who actually did the cheating as McLaren Fan pointed out), when in actual fact McLaren constantly have the dice loaded against them.
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By texasmr2
#34200
McLaren arent liked by the powers that be, Ferrari are loved by the powers that be and sit on the governing body.The FIA are corrupt, All that is fact. However you look at it McLaren have to do a lot more than have the best car and driver to win. This is why McLaren fan's get insensed when the whole team is called cheats(rather than the 3 who actually did the cheating as McLaren Fan pointed out), when in actual fact McLaren constantly have the dice loaded against them.

One's perception is one's reality.
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By racechick
#34201
Thats more than just my perception.
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By 8-ball
#34203
When will this s*** end :evil:


I doubt it will. If McLaren win in 2008, a lot of people will be screaming things like: "They cheated! They only got there because they have Ferrari information!" and it will all start up again. And if Ferrari win, people will most likely say something along the lines of: "Just look where cheating gets you..."

So really, not for a while.


Well you won't hear that rhetoric from me. If Mclaren win I will say well done you had the better car and that goes for Ferrari. The FIA are making sure that the Mclaren car has no Ferrari parts on it so if they win no one can complain
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By phren
#34204
Cheating? This is F1 we are talking about. The world of high tech espionage and big money politics. It's never been just about car racing since it's inception. The formula is as James Bond as a missle fireing pen and long may it remain so. If you want simply car races then NASCAR or (God forbid) A1 GP may be your thing.
This is why I have a problem with The FIA/FIAT consortium and the constant rule changes to make things cheaper, simpler, slower, more centralised. Apart from reducing the fun the F1/Fiat consortium try to hide the real F1 interest, the players, the politics, the technology, the money, the power and corruption.
It's not a car race, its a thriller.
:shock::shock::shock::shock:
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By deMuRe
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As a life-long fan of Formula One and McLaren, I was so proud of the team last season. Despite an internecine war between drivers, Alonso trying to bribe staff with £700 in exchange for supporting him, and an FIA-Ferrari slander campaign, and several subversive members of staff, the team kept their heads down, continued to win races and develop the MP4-22 at a staggering pace and design the MP4-23 which so far looks to be a great peace of kit. McLaren have the car, drivers, management, engineers, mechanics to give Ferrari-FIA the two fingers next season - but I've no doubt Ferrari, Mosley and Ecclestone will be aware of this and will take suitable action...


How the hell can you say you are proud of McCheaters?

Alonso offering money as an incentive is the lifeblood of F1, how do you think everyone else gets paid?

Blind is not the word...
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By darwin dali
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Anyway, for those who are so keen to play the 'McLaren are a disgrace' card every time the spying scandal is mentioned, read through the WMSC transcripts and all the other evidence, go past all the tabloid-style journalism, and then you'll have a better idea. Like McLaren Fan has already said, you're branding hundreds of people cheaters when, in actual fact, it was only a few. That's unfair and to be honest you should be ashamed of yourselves for doing it. I'm pretty sure that if Ferrari were caught in a similar situation and people branded them all as cheaters, you'd be quick on their defence stating the exact same points...



Having read all the transcripts available (incl. the fooked up ones where the black bars covering some sensitive info can be easily unblackened) I resent this part of your post. The only ones who should be ashamed of themselves are the top brass at McLaren. I found it scandalous how every little bit of info had to be extracted from them bit by bit. They only admitted to things once there was no way of hiding anymore because the facts were in plain view - instead they should have volunteered everything from day 1 on and truly cooperate in the investigation. Shame on them for having brought the sport into disrepute with their acts (and inertia) :!:
By Mikep99
#34220
firstly you ask when this s*** will end after you have had your say? how does that work?? do you wish McLaren fan to change his opinion and then youd be happy? will the s*** have ended in your book?


I will tell you how it works bud. Why the hell do you think I stopped posting for about 2 months. Because it was the same old, same old & I was bored to death with the same old crap. I come back & its same story, from same people in every second post.
WHAT do you think McLaren Fans posts are works of art and should be looked at and admired? All they are a shooting gallery with bull's-eyes all over it. :wink:

I am just responding not instigating the same old s***. :roll:

and its hilarious you Ferrari faggots taking digs at McLaren when you act as though your team is so sporting and honest
Go look in the mirror before you accuse teams of cheating!
stupid f***s


Very eloquent indeed. :twisted:
Mate Ferrari & every other team on the grid would have probably done exactly the same thing with the illegally gotten data McLaren had.
Data like that is like letting a kid loose in a candy store stuff, so don’t kid yourself.
The difference is you and a few others cannot face the facts that your team will and HAS stooped as low as all the rest.


If McLaren don't win the title by fair means next season I won't need to update my signature. If there is the usual jigery pokery from Ferrari-FIA et al. which costs McLaren the title then I'll be putting a nice 2008 in bold on my signature. Anyway tifosi, continue to enjoy your hard-earned titles... ?


Mate I don’t dispute that Ferrari do get SOME favorable decisions. But no where near the 99.9% that you & the rest go on about.
Do I agree with it NO.
Where does this favoring come from. Well bud hit the nail on the head with his lamb comment below

Tex if you have ever been to a gp you would understand, Ferrari w**kers everywhere you look. Lambs following the herd everyone else goes for them i will too.


Ferrari is the FIA’s cash cow. They are the most famous & successful team out there and the masses that just go to see the F1 circus because it is in town usually are swayed by this. And this is not a Ferrari fan telling everyone how great his team is, it’s just the cold hard truth.

This being said the slight favoritism Ferrari may get is no different than the favoritism shown Brazil by the FIFA or any team in any sport when they are playing at home. It’s life, it’s business & it stinks but it does not account for 99.9% of their success.

Every single contentious incident that involves Ferrari is ALWAYS clear cut to the Ferrari hatters. But every contentious incident involving other teams is always OPEN to interpretation. Just look at how many contentious situation Hammy was in this year & he & McLaren smell like roses.

Get over it because your just making excuses for your teams possible failures even before the racing has started.:roll:



This is why McLaren fan's get insensed when the whole team is called cheats(rather than the 3 who actually did the cheating as McLaren Fan pointed out), when in actual fact McLaren constantly have the dice loaded against them.


Just three? :roll: Did you read the report or what? There were many more than three involved & they were not just janitors either.
Was the evidence clear cut. NO the only way it would have been was if there were Ferrari emblems on parts of the car. All the way through the report the comment was “It is beyond a reasonable assumption thatâ€
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By darwin dali
#34221
Simple formula: MacLaren Fan + Koolaid = McLaren Lamb.


thats abit harsh from a moderator :lol:

and again you CANT use lamb in a McLaren context as its used in a Ferrari context to describe someone who follows the herd and there is a s*** load of Ferrari lambs. Go to a GP all you see is dicks in Ferrari gear and i do mean dicks :wink:

The only thing they undermined was the McLaren illusion of Honesty & Integrity.
Please give it a break will you. :roll:

Like I said you have got your excuses ready even before the racing has started.
If McLaren win it's because they are such a great team and fought against all adversity and still won. You make it sound so heroic
If they loose well we all know what it means - You will get your bold 2008 ready for your footer. :wink:

When will this s*** end :evil:


firstly you ask when this s*** will end after you have had your say? how does that work?? do you wish McLaren fan to change his opinion and then youd be happy? will the s*** have ended in your book?

and its hilarious you Ferrari <EDITED FOR CONTENT> taking digs at McLaren when you act as though your team is so sporting and honest
Go look in the mirror before you accuse teams of cheating!
stupid f***s :twisted:


Does it say 'mod' under my name?

However, as you can see I'm happy to help you with your composition style :twisted::P

And I just assume that you mean all the Ferrari fans who's name is Richard or Riccardo, etc., right? :lol:
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