- 28 Nov 12, 07:59#336931
Honest question, but is that really the case? All the damage on Vettel's car as later shown suggests impact occurred in say the last 25% of the side of his car and neither replay posted above suggest Senna was right down the side of him.
I have learnt over the years that no two viewers will see any one accident the same way but I was somewhat surprised by this description of being "half way up the side"
Anyway this is not really about Vettel and the Championship situation on Sunday for me, as its a scenario that could occur in any race at any time. I just have
some confusion about what people would be expecting the lead driver to do in that situation to avoid the accident. I mean he has to take the corner, is in front as he starts to turn in, and can't really be expected to see the driver behind him diving down the inside. Short of just exiting the circuit I don't see how any accident could be involved. i.e. racing incident.
In terms of penalties surely being turned around to the back of the field in this case is penalty enough, although I understand that the outcome of collisions is random and shouldnt be used as a determinant for the correct outcome.
I do however think its possible to over analyse these things.
I agree it was harsh. Made harsher still by the fact that Vettel didn't get dinged for his even though they were of similar composition. I think the think the Hulk got dinged more because it took the leader out of the picture. He stuck his nose and tried to make a pass while carrying way too much speed and Hamilton paid the price. By definition it was avoidable contact, but given the circumstances I'm sure loosing out on a potential win for Force India or a very probable podium finish, that he''' be hating himself for the chicken up all winter long.
It shouldn't matter who was taken out of the race, both were avoidable accidents...
It's a bit like saying that murdering a wealthy businessman should carry a harsher sentence than murdering a homeless man!The Vettel/Senna incident was also a racing incident and nothing more. Senna went for a gap that wasn't really there and Vettel took, if anything, a slightly wider line as I think he would have missed the apex even if Senna hadn't clouted him.
I don't agree with that view; there was clearly a gap; Senna was half way up the side of Vettel when the German turned in, it was a racing incident but it was 100% Vettel's fault!
Honest question, but is that really the case? All the damage on Vettel's car as later shown suggests impact occurred in say the last 25% of the side of his car and neither replay posted above suggest Senna was right down the side of him.
I have learnt over the years that no two viewers will see any one accident the same way but I was somewhat surprised by this description of being "half way up the side"
Anyway this is not really about Vettel and the Championship situation on Sunday for me, as its a scenario that could occur in any race at any time. I just have
some confusion about what people would be expecting the lead driver to do in that situation to avoid the accident. I mean he has to take the corner, is in front as he starts to turn in, and can't really be expected to see the driver behind him diving down the inside. Short of just exiting the circuit I don't see how any accident could be involved. i.e. racing incident.
In terms of penalties surely being turned around to the back of the field in this case is penalty enough, although I understand that the outcome of collisions is random and shouldnt be used as a determinant for the correct outcome.
I do however think its possible to over analyse these things.
