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[Hammer278]

....Brosnan will always be Bond to me.

I was born 1986...maybe that might help you understand better.

Nope - it doesn't. Daniel Craig is faaaaaar better!

[vlad]

[stonemonkey]

I'll wait till I've seen skyfall, Craig in Casino Royale seemed to be taking bond in a direction I liked the look of but then the next one threw all that away.

Why am I saying that in the US GP thread?

[Hammer278]

Whitmarsh on Ferrari's off-track tactics:

Asked whether he would have done the same as Ferrari team principal Stefano Domenicali, Whitmarsh said: "I don't think so.

"It was quite a tough thing to do. Team principals decide how to run their programmes, and it is very clear they (Ferrari) are focused on Fernando.

"Lest we forget that when Fernando was with us (in 2007) it was not doing those things that meant he left us.

"But I'm not criticising anyone. You have to go racing as you see fit.

"The toughest thing is that it put a number of people on to the slow side of the grid.

"If I had qualified on the right-hand side of the grid, but then I was moved on to the slow side, I would have been very p***** off.

"And if it had detrimentally affected us I would have been pretty exercised about it, but it didn't."

Appreciably, Domenicali had no qualms about his decision, insisting it was within the spirit of the regulations.

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Key line by Whitmarsh....as I keep saying, the newfound 'quiet and calm Fernando" is thanks to a team which makes sure that all the toys in the shop are in his pram, but put him up against the biggest whingers on the grid, and he is Champion everytime, yes even compared to Vettel. No one else can make such a ruckus as he made in 2007 at McLaren, screwing over the entire team that way.

[stonemonkey]

I have no problem with what Ferrari did, they played to the rules and it worked out for them. Something has to be done about the rules however, a team should not be able to shuffle the grid in such a way.

[darwin dali]

....Brosnan will always be Bond to me.

I was born 1986...maybe that might help you understand better.

Nope - it doesn't. Daniel Craig is faaaaaar better!

Sean Connery!

[stonemonkey]

I have no problem with what Ferrari did, they played to the rules and it worked out for them. Something has to be done about the rules however, a team should not be able to shuffle the grid in such a way.

To add to this, what if some other other team(s) thought similarly after one has caused a re-shuffle. It has the potential to get very silly.

[Deovann07]

I have no problem with what Ferrari did, they played to the rules and it worked out for them. Something has to be done about the rules however, a team should not be able to shuffle the grid in such a way.

To add to this, what if some other other team(s) thought similarly after one has caused a re-shuffle. It has the potential to get very silly.

There are some rules to be engage for this sport. At least you anyone have an idea about that.

[What's Burning?]

....Brosnan will always be Bond to me.

I was born 1986...maybe that might help you understand better.

So was my Porsche, but even she knows Sean Connery was and Daniel Craig is the cat's meow to the ladies.

[f1ea]

I have no problem with what Ferrari did, they played to the rules and it worked out for them. Something has to be done about the rules however, a team should not be able to shuffle the grid in such a way.

To add to this, what if some other other team(s) thought similarly after one has caused a re-shuffle. It has the potential to get very silly.

The reason Ferrari was in that position was because Grosjean had taken a penalty himself too.

Other teams would not do the same, because first of all: the opportunity to have such a big difference on start sides are slim to none. Second, the possibilities of being in such a position where 5 places drop for one driver clearly works in their favour... is also slim to none. 5 places is a big penalty.

I didnt think it was worth it (as I thought a strong Massa up front would have been better for Fernando), but when I saw Alonso in P4 by turn 1, i realized why they run teams and i post on forums.

[f1ea]

Funny how Witmarsh comes to the attack knowing there's no recent memory of his team has basically won no championships, except in the cases where it had a clear privileged driver. A team that loses the 3 best drivers they've had in a long while, to go to worse teams, and not that much more money (in the case of Alonso, even less $$). Says a lot.

He can run his team as they please, but when others do it differently, i think the best is to shhhhh and take it like a man.
Even Horner downplayed it, and they were the most hurt by the sneaky Ferrari.

[LRW]

but when I saw Alonso in P4 by turn 1, i realized why they run teams and i post on forums.

It's so nice to see one of us admit that for once. The way the majority of us on here argue, you would think we were all F1 engineers.

[andrew]

....Brosnan will always be Bond to me.

I was born 1986...maybe that might help you understand better.

Nope - it doesn't. Daniel Craig is faaaaaar better!

Sean Connery!

Sean Connery was the best Bond. Much more in-keeping with how Bond is described in the novels.

I was born 1983...maybe that might help you understand better.

[stonemonkey]

I have no problem with what Ferrari did, they played to the rules and it worked out for them. Something has to be done about the rules however, a team should not be able to shuffle the grid in such a way.

To add to this, what if some other other team(s) thought similarly after one has caused a re-shuffle. It has the potential to get very silly.

The reason Ferrari was in that position was because Grosjean had taken a penalty himself too.

I don't see how the way the grid ended up the way it did before Ferrari made the decision is particularly relavent.

Other teams would not do the same, because first of all: the opportunity to have such a big difference on start sides are slim to none. Second, the possibilities of being in such a position where 5 places drop for one driver clearly works in their favour... is also slim to none. 5 places is a big penalty.

Slim to none? it happened, the chances are not none.

Who's to say some team in the future might not see a way to either improve their own position or put someone else at a disadvantage with similar actions? I just don't think the rules should allow a team to have the option of shuffling the grid.

I didnt think it was worth it (as I thought a strong Massa up front would have been better for Fernando), but when I saw Alonso in P4 by turn 1, i realized why they run teams and i post on forums.

[cheekybru]

I have no problem with what Ferrari did, they played to the rules and it worked out for them. Something has to be done about the rules however, a team should not be able to shuffle the grid in such a way.

this is what i siad in chat the gearbox rule needs changing