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[Hammer278]

what happened to Robert12010?

He was sweet and polite, like a red shirt on a Star Trek episode.

Had great taste in driver skills too.

Robert12010 was a great guy. I sent him a PM on his birthday last year, but he's never logged on to read it.

He was one of my first "forum friends" when I signed up.

A Vettel fan was he?

No, I said 'great taste', thus Hamilton...not common ordinary-folk taste.

[f1ea]

:yes:
Lately your posts are great.

They've alway been the same

In any case, not that Red Bull winning makes me happy, and i REALLY don't like that they are allowed a Bteam; but if they beat the rest, they deserve respect; and the other teams need to do a better job. The same applies to Vettel, even more so because he's a nice guy. Much nicer than those Helmut and other RB guys.....

[vlad]

Well, Helmut Marko is actually the only bad guy in Red Bull. But, I guess every good team needs to have a fool like that...

I can't say I'm against a B-team. Vettel was also there, proved that he is worth. And, after all, young drivers have their opportunity.

[Nin-Chin]

Just for u
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[vlad]

Thanks for this video, man! It's amazing!
It doesn't show overtaking, except for spinning Massa, but it shows the speed and "on the edge" driving style. Pay attention to small adjustments he makes on the braking points lap after lap. He caught up with Webber in only 5 minutes, in the same car, haha.

[vlad]

This is a great angle to see how Vettel made his move on Button. Just look how steady they both are, so much respect, leaving each other plenty of room. Amazing stuff!

[youtube]UzXrvxsqcGA[/youtube]

[LewEngBridewell]

Love watching fan videos from the grandstands... good atmosphere.

[What's Burning?]

This is a great angle to see how Vettel made his move on Button. Just look how steady they both are, so much respect, leaving each other plenty of room. Amazing stuff!

[youtube]UzXrvxsqcGA[/youtube]

Damned good seats!

[Nin-Chin]

Thanks for this video, man! It's amazing!
It doesn't show overtaking, except for spinning Massa, but it shows the speed and "on the edge" driving style. Pay attention to small adjustments he makes on the braking points lap after lap. He caught up with Webber in only 5 minutes, in the same car, haha.

Plus u posted a comment
the location was the same
i found your youtube account!
subbed u

and found your real name....

[Injen]

Could not of said it better myself.

Jacques Villeneuve believes that World Champion Seb Vettel still behaves in an immature manner and has a lot of growing up to do.

Vettel and Fernando Alonso are currently fighting it out for this year's title, with the former holding a 10-point lead heading into the penultimate race of the year, but Villeneuve has no doubts about who he believes is the deserved winner of the Championship.

Despite coming from the back of the grid to finish third last time out in Abu Dhabi, Villeneuve feels that Vettel is a near one trick pony, only able to win when he starts from the front of the pack.

"For me, it has confirmed what I think about Vettel," Villeneuve told Autosprint of the race in Abu Dhabi. "These are facts: while recovering from the back, he first got in contact with Senna who was ahead of him and damaged his front wing.

"Then he lost control of his car and crashed under the safety car. A very serious error that had light consequences. As for the rest, he has shown to be super quick, but he was lucky and I'm not changing my mind: Alonso deserves the 2012 title more."

When it comes to a head to head comparison between the two, Villeneuve is of the opinion that Alonso is superior mentally and emotionally, meaning that the Ferrari man is a better driver who is able to react effectively to different situations.

"I have no doubts: Fernando Alonso is the best, that's why I root for him," said the 1997 title winner.

"Seb is super quick( in the redbull ), but there is a difference with Fernando that emerges in case of an unfavorable situation.

"Alonso remains calm, cool, and rational, while Vettel most of times gets upset, angry, screams and flicks the middle finger. He reacts like a child.

"These behaviors indicate two different states of maturity but, let's be clear, Sebastian is an ace too; however, he struggles more in critical situations.

"He looks almost unbeatable when he leads, but if he needs to catch up he becomes vulnerable."

[vaptin]

I assume you are using acid tiger?

[mnmracer]

Single Vettel out to critize him on something most drivers do, is bad form.
But to then say Alonso is a saint in comparison, in the department where Fernando excels on the negative, is just mind-boggling.
It's like Mika Häkkinen can only win when his team mates drive get out of his way, and then go on to praise Schumacher and Alonso for doing it all on their own.

[Jabberwocky]

Alonso is only a saint until he is in the fastest car then he will beome the next Seb

[f1ea]

Single Vettel out to critize him on something most drivers do, is bad form.
But to then say Alonso is a saint in comparison, in the department where Fernando excels on the negative, is just mind-boggling.
It's like Mika Häkkinen can only win when his team mates drive get out of his way, and then go on to praise Schumacher and Alonso for doing it all on their own.

Alonso is only a saint until he is in the fastest car then he will beome the next Seb

Where did he say Alonso is a Saint??

Anyways, the only thing Villeneuve said was that he thinks Alonso is mentally stronger than Vettel, or more mature. To be honest, Vettel acts much more childishly, but who cares. He's also younger and in a different team... RB comes out as pretty lax.

But this (maturity, mental strength....) isn't EVERYTHING; as he already said Vettel is an ace. Villeneuve is just stating where he thinks Alonso has an edge over Vettel. He used the race in Abu Dhabi as example because Vettel made more mistakes in that race alone than Alonso all season. Maybe to support his point and compare, he could have added Alonso's race at Monza. Whether that makes Alonso more deserving than Vettel ah well, that could be good solace for the fans; but both these guys are racing to win it, not to deserve it

Villeneuve singled Vettel and Alonso because they are the ones going for the WDC right now. If it were different people, he would have singled another guy as well, if he thought either had an edge.

[mnmracer]

Single Vettel out to critize him on something most drivers do, is bad form.
But to then say Alonso is a saint in comparison, in the department where Fernando excels on the negative, is just mind-boggling.
It's like Mika Häkkinen can only win when his team mates drive get out of his way, and then go on to praise Schumacher and Alonso for doing it all on their own.

Alonso is only a saint until he is in the fastest car then he will beome the next Seb

Where did he say Alonso is a Saint??

Anyways, the only thing Villeneuve said was that he thinks Alonso is mentally stronger than Vettel, or more mature. To be honest, Vettel acts much more childishly, but who cares. He's also younger and in a different team... RB comes out as pretty lax.

But this (maturity, mental strength....) isn't EVERYTHING; as he already said Vettel is an ace. Villeneuve is just stating where he thinks Alonso has an edge over Vettel. He used the race in Abu Dhabi as example because Vettel made more mistakes in that race alone than Alonso all season. Maybe to support his point and compare, he could have added Alonso's race at Monza. Whether that makes Alonso more deserving than Vettel ah well, that could be good solace for the fans; but both these guys are racing to win it, not to deserve it

Villeneuve singled Vettel and Alonso because they are the ones going for the WDC right now. If it were different people, he would have singled another guy as well, if he thought either had an edge.

If you truly don't see how calling Vettel "upset, angry, screams and flicks the middle finger" and then pointing to Alonso as not being that, is retarded, then you know nothing about Formula One.

Then again, you do believe that Alonso made less than two mistakes all season.