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#331124
I said before, I don't think the Mexican money followed Perez, I think it stayed with Sauber.
Regarding the driver line up, it was Mclarens choice. They made it clear that they wanted Button in the driving seat and that's what they've got. They've made their bed and now they have to lie in it. But I somehow think when they made that bed they expected Hamilton to snuggle down under the covers like a good little boy. Well he didn't. I wouldn't write them off yet. It depends what car McLaren come out of the stable with and it depends how the tyres work. If the tyres allow drivers to push and race, a bit like they could in India, then I think Mclaren could be in trouble. If once again the tyres require slow driving then it could be their get out of jail card. But I think the tyres will allow more pushing next year.....but that's just a guess.
Perez. Give him a chance. He's young, he's fast and he's delivered. But he hasn't completely outshone his current team mate, he has huge expectation and pressure next year and it looks like some of that is already getting to him.
#331181
Really wish the board index would get fixed, so I don't keep missing new threads :ranting:

I feel Perez is a good choice. He's dragged that Sauber up to 2nd twice this year, so he can't be too bad. I am a big fan of Hulkenberg too, but comparing them is difficult as they've never been in the same car.

Hopefully, the decision to hire Sergio Perez will prove to be an inspired one. :)
#331196
Really wish the board index would get fixed, so I don't keep missing new threads :ranting:


On the board index, just above the categories, click on the 'unread posts' link. You'll never miss a new thread again......

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#331216
I'll go with some of your other thoughts before the original question.

First of all has Barichello ever been unbeatable?Even if he had,why compare Perez to that,he has done some really good driving this year,especially the first half of the year,but the media overrated.After he was 2nd,we started hearing Perez to Ferrari rumors immediately.Moreover,people outside of the media supported this overnight.

Poor quali pace,but that's something to do with the car and systems itself,rather than his raw speed,I think.Maybe he isn't shining at this part but we can't just go and say he's not actually good at that.

Don't forget they've both been F1 for only 2 years,or raced for only 2 years.

I've noticed Hülkenberg's performances too,and yeah,agree with your thoughts about him.

About Kimi,I think McLaren wants an experienced driver and a young one at this time.And we know about Ferrari,a first and second driver,they have the first driver now,Kimi wouldn't go for the second place.

For me,you're a bit harsh about the Button comment ''train driver''.No need to explain why.

If I am to talk about the original question,I think they wanted to have one of the youngest drivers.Also,the sponsorships make some matter,too.And anything can happen in F1! :D
#331221
I don't think McLaren aren't looking for the best drivers they can get, but actually, I think I agree, Hulkenberg instead of Perez, and Hulkenberg and Kimi would be a better pairing than Button and Perez. But Button is good for marketing, and I think a team like McLaren like to know their drivers, and have consistency, the smaller teams are resigned to losing their quickest drivers, it's a bit like Ferrari wanting to keep Massa, even Hekki was even time in McLaren, same with Webber, there are probably other drivers out there faster than him.
#331322
Ok mclaren is a f1 team, they are not looking to just look good,that's an absurd thing to say.


No longer, McLaren are an F1 team as well as a low volume manufacturer of road cars in the Ferrari bracket.

Ferrari do not spend any money whatsoever on advertising, they have always relied on their on track activities instead. Profits come from selling expensive cars to the public.

Ferrari went through a prolonged spell of little on track success by leveraging on their history and 'pedigree' however they were forced to out spend their rivals to get back to winning ways

Now it doesnt take mush investigation to ascertain that the Mclaren road car division could be doing a lot better than it actually is, doent take much to understand why an F1 team would let one of the 3 acknowledged Aces on the grid (Aces = top rank talent, top rank marketeability) walk and then not replace him with an Ace. the only one arguably qualified for this role is Kimi.

Mclaren have previously said that they go for the best 2 drivers available, more recently Ron has said that they are now more interested in race wins than challenging for titles.

Renault/Genii/Lotus have a stronger 2013 lineup than McLaren

McLaren are no longer able to spend like Red Bull or Ferrari, as long as this is the case then they are no longer challengers, merely participants with road cars to sell (in the same space as Ferrari and Mercedes)

Challengers who come third with 2 WCS and the best car do not replace an Ace with unproven cheap 'mouldable' talent. Ferrari have Fred, RBR have Seb, Merc have Lewis, Lotus have Kimi, the rest are just making up the numbers and trying to make ends meet
#331416
Where do you come up with this crap mate?


well well well! from under a certain stone crawls out a great reductionist counter argument
well thought out, well reasoned and impressive contribution to the thread

a bit like the McLaren approach to problem solving

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#331439
Where do you come up with this crap mate?


You have to admit everything he says regarding McLaren's form recently is the truth.

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