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From autosport.com:

By Jonathan Noble and Michele Lostia Thursday, February 14th 2008, 11:19 GMT

Former Ferrari mechanic Nigel Stepney is to meet the FIA soon to explain his role in last year's F1 spy scandal before any punishment is handed down, with a sanction already believed to have been imposed on McLaren's suspended chief designer Mike Coughlan.

Sources have revealed that Stepney could face up to a two-year ban from international motor racing for his part in the exchange of information between Ferrari and McLaren last year.

Autosport.com understands that Coughlan has already been punished by the FIA following an apology to the governing body and Ferrari, although there are no details on what sanction he has been given.

The FIA has made it clear that it has no comment on the matter at this stage.

Stepney had been due to meet the FIA's legal department last week but the meeting was postponed because of unforeseen circumstances. A new meeting will be rescheduled for the near future.

Despite the FIA's unwillingness to comment officially on its plans, president Max Mosley wrote a letter to Italian publication Autosprint this week explaining that it was important Stepney and Coughlan had the chance to defend themselves.

This was in response to an open letter published in the magazine a fortnight ago asking why Stepney had not been questioned by the FIA and why he was not banned from FIA sanctioned events.

In the letter Mosley wrote: "No one can be sentenced without having first had the opportunity of defending himself. This is a fundamental legal principle."

He added: "You are wrong in saying that his guilt is an unquestionable fact before he's had the opportunity to defend himself. In condemning someone without giving him the chance to be heard, you deny the justice that is the right of everyone, whatever their responsibilities."

It is understood that in the wake of the spy scandal, the FIA is considering implementing a licencing system, similar to that used for drivers, for all personnel in F1. This would allow them to withdraw licences from - and effectively ban - people who breach FIA regulations.


I could say a lot about the last three paragraphs and how some of them are no more than lip service, but at least it's likely that Stepney will be punished. The whole thing is pretty sad, for until this he had a wonderful career in the sport.
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By Martin
#32827
Good post M.F. I find more inconsistencies here though;-
1. The FIA has found McL. guilty of this crime and issued punishment. If the FIA regards team individual employees as liable then why penalise the company? You cant have it both ways - its either the responsibility of the company or of individuals. It is, in my view, the option of the company to take action against the employee, if the company is deemed responsible by the FIA.

2. How can the FIA have found McL guilty if they were not sure about what Coughlan and Stepney did or did not do? arse about face or what?


[quote] "You are wrong in saying that his guilt is an unquestionable fact before he's had the opportunity to defend himself. In condemning someone without giving him the chance to be heard, you deny the justice that is the right of everyone, whatever their responsibilities."

The above paragraph is utter rubbish. He must be guilty because McL has been penalised. If there is any doubt then there has to be doubt over McLs 'conviction' also.
How can McL be guilty if Stepney is not? Its all part of the same thing.

I wonder what they will do if Stepney is found 'not guilty'? The penalty against McL will have to be withdrawn.

What an utter pigs ear of a situation, but up to the usual standard of M.M. and FIA.
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By texasmr2
#32829
Nigel Stepney and Mike Coughlan should be permantley banned from all FIA controlled motorsport's.

They have brought nothing but disrespect to F1 as a whole and imho cannot be trusted ever again. Once a thief alway's a thief. !
By mooker
#32831
Some good points there Martin. Have to agree also with MF, its either down to the individual or the team. Not both.

Will be very interesting to hear Stepney's side of it.
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By McLaren Fan
#32834
Mosley likes to use the legal argument, but only when it suits him. Take yesterday's announcement that McLaren are to get the fifth pit garage. How can that possibly be legal? What about sending Carlos Gracia to keep tabs at McLaren over the Brazilian Grand Prix when it's only team orders in the race that are banned and allowing Ferrari to favour Schumacher for years. What about doing nothing about Ferrari's flexi-floor in the Australian Grand Prix? What about an unaccountable president? What about a stewarding system which is biased to the hilt? Why were McLaren asked to retract a few footnotes about Renault's involvement in the spy scandal when Ferrari were allowed to conduct a full-blown media smear campaign? What about penalising McLaren when they still could not prove the data was used on the MP4-22? What about using inadmissible evidence to find McLaren guilty? What about the jury (the WMSC) being made up with the largest group being Ferrari representatives (amongst others with Ferrari sympathies)? What about Mosley calling Stewart a 'certified half-wit' etc.? I could go on, but I think I've shown that the FIA are a disgrace and not fit to govern Formula One. Root and branch reform is needed.
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By bud
#32849
I found it odd aswell Martin, i thought his guilt has already been found if McLaren was punished?
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By nikon133
#32850
Nigel Stepney and Mike Coughlan should be permantley banned from all FIA controlled motorsport's.

They have brought nothing but disrespect to F1 as a whole and imho cannot be trusted ever again. Once a thief alway's a thief. !


Agree. 2 years ban is ridiculous, especially considering that for his wrongdoing McLaren was punished with 100 mils and all championship points. but he does have to stand his trial before that happens, no matter how small the chance is he is not guilty.
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By darwin dali
#32853
McLaren was not punished for stealing the info (remember the first meeting's decision?). But rather for using the illegally obtained info and not dealing with the situation correctly and not volunteering information about who knew and used the info.
So don't compare apples with oranges.
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By Jensonb
#32854
Hmm...I guess he gets a separate punishment from the team because he's no longer part of the team. Even so, a 2 year ban seems a little harsh...One year maybe.

But anyway, we do need an FIA reform. And not just because of any conflicts of interest or apparent conflicts of interest (Which are treated as almost as bad by, for example, the US's SEC), but also because the sport the FIA wants F1 to be right now is neither what we want nor is it really true to F1's spirit.

It's a schizophrenic mess. Are we trying to be an exercise in Semi-Control equipment, or the pinnacle of motorsport? Are we trying to be safe and exciting? If so, why does the FIA throw out solutions to problems which make us both when the alternative is boredom (See Indygate).

Is Formula One supposed to be cheap, safe, fast, bleeding edge, what? Max Mosley's long in the tooth administration hasn't a clue. Someone needs to run against him if, as he is now thinking, he does decide to run again.

And for the love of all that is holy, nix the engine freeze and give the winner 12 points.

Hmm, kinda got off on a rant about Mosley's FIA there. But it bugs me.
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By bud
#32857
McLaren was not punished for stealing the info (remember the first meeting's decision?). But rather for using the illegally obtained info and not dealing with the situation correctly and not volunteering information about who knew and used the info.
So don't compare apples with oranges.


but in those hearings it was achnowledged that Stepney was guilty i as it was because of him McLaren had the info no?

so this talk of him having his say before the FIA is silly, what if in that he is amazingly found innocent? :lol:
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By Denthúl
#32865
Well, if he was found innocent, despite the fact that he stole the Ferrari data, then there's absolutely no way they could find McLaren guilty of such a crime, either. But I doubt the verdict will be anything but guilty.
By mooker
#32868
I don't think he'll be found innocent. If he was then the data wouldn't have been illegally obtained, McLaren would bring out their lawyers to challenge the punishment, a large can of worms would be opened and we'll never hear the end of it.
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By Martin
#32869
Why is M.M. allowing this charade of Stepney being given the chance to defend himself? This should have been done before any case against McL. The verdict HAS to be guilty so whats all this bollocks about Max?
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By Jensonb
#32870
Only justification I can think of is that it's to decide how guilty he is.

Yes, I know that sounds crazy.
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By Denthúl
#32871
I honestly have no idea why. But it does show that, once more, the way the whole thing was handled was not exactly the best...

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