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[texasmr2]

My perception as to why F1 has lost ALOT of it's allure to the fan's and why some race's are on the verge of being eliminated is that too many fan's are on the 'political bandwagon' thus attendance has suffered. What has been LOST is what's most important which is the on-track result's. I could care less about what happen's behind 'closed door's' because it is something I have no control over! I say "pull up your knicker's, wipe the tear's from your eye's and do something about it on the track"!

The incesent moaning and groaning has become so tiresome that I almost hate to login now. '07 is in the past, complete history, but it is still being used as a scape goat. I will post no further replie's to this thread but only enjoy the feedback, flame suit on!

[mooker]

Should be sorted once the FIA cleans up its act and gets rid of mad Max. Personally, I don't blame Ferrari, McLaren, or anyone else, just the FIA for letting it happen with their inconsistant rules.

[McLaren Fan]

I think a lot depends on the type of fan. The majority of Ferrari fans are not too fussed on the politics as they work in their favour, but those who aren't Ferrari lambs have become fed up with Ferrari getting decisions from the stewards, Mosley and the courtrooms. I don't think they are reaching for their remotes, yet.

What will piss a lot of people off is how Ecclestone is running the show. He will go where the money is, and to get a few million bucks (sounds a lot, but it's only a drop in the ocean compared to Ecclestone's personal fortune and the CVC/Formula 1 Administration's turnover) he's not worried about sacrificing some fantastic tracks. Hell if Monaco stopped making him enough money, he would have it off the calendar.

You ask when will politics in Formula One stop. Well, I don't think they ever will, at least on one front. The fact is Formula One (and any sport in the modern age) is a multi-billion dollar business, so commerce will have to decide some things (although I would argue that, although important, it should not be the be-all-and-end-all). The other front about which I talk is the FIA. If the reforms that I suggested before on this forum are implemented, I think we could have a fully impartial governing body, so, at least on the sporting side, we not have Ferrari getting away with whatever they want and other teams being punished on trumped-up charges to favour the Maranello mob.

[madbrad]

never.

[al4x]

I say never

[Selcouth_Feline]

Never. Where there's money, there will be politics. And F1 will never be short of money.

[AKR]

Even whrn Moseley goes and someone else comes in, all that will happen is this.

The Muscians will change but the Music will remain the same.

It is like that everywhere where there is politics and governemnt and there is not difference in it when it comes down to politics and sport.

So get used to things being like they are now for a while.

[7UpJordan]

My perception as to why F1 has lost ALOT of it's allure to the fan's and why some race's are on the verge of being eliminated is that too many fan's are on the 'political bandwagon' thus attendance has suffered. What has been LOST is what's most important which is the on-track result's. I could care less about what happen's behind 'closed door's' because it is something I have no control over! I say "pull up your knicker's, wipe the tear's from your eye's and do something about it on the track"!

You sure it's not a thong?

We need Brundle's Barrel back to do exactly what Brundle said with all these politics, but them all in the barrel and roll them down a hill.

[8-ball]

Even whrn Moseley goes and someone else comes in, all that will happen is this.

The Muscians will change but the Music will remain the same.

It is like that everywhere where there is politics and governemnt and there is not difference in it when it comes down to politics and sport.

So get used to things being like they are now for a while.

The problem with the FIA is thier inconsistency and that is down to Moseley. The Muscians will change the music will be the same but hopefully it is played a lot better

[texasmr2]

Since I'm being misunderstood I must post. I know politic's will never leave F1 that was not my meaning as I was referring the the fan's not the FIA. If you reread my post you will see I made no reference to the FIA other than "I could care less about what happen's behind 'closed door's' because it is something I have no control over".

My opologies to everyone as alot of the time my brain is going 100mph while my typing is only at 10mph so my thought's get jumbled in text. I will correct the header as it is misleading.

Gregg

[al4x]

this last season definitly

[deMuRe]

Money and Corporate Image, they are the reasons why everyone is so concerned with what happens away from the track...

As the money in F1 grows, so will the politics...

Off the track Ferrari have done it best so far. On the track it's fairly close between McLaren and Ferrari.

[barklay]

What sport doesn't suffer a bit from politics? Media plays on the scandals and writes and rewrites them to death so that's what people hear the most and talk about the most.

It doesn't take a long time for things to settle down and the fans to come back.

F1-ToGo

[Martin]

My perception as to why F1 has lost ALOT of it's allure to the fan's and why some race's are on the verge of being eliminated is that too many fan's are on the 'political bandwagon' thus attendance has suffered. What has been LOST is what's most important which is the on-track result's. I could care less about what happen's behind 'closed door's' because it is something I have no control over! I say "pull up your knicker's, wipe the tear's from your eye's and do something about it on the track"!

The incesent moaning and groaning has become so tiresome that I almost hate to login now. '07 is in the past, complete history, but it is still being used as a scape goat. I will post no further replie's to this thread but only enjoy the feedback, flame suit on!

You are right tex, I have done my fair share of comment on the events of last year, but, the point is that one cannot separate on track racing and off track politicking. One affects the other, for example, the 'spygate' scandal probably would not have happened, or would have been a minor event, if it had been a minor team involved rather than the 2 top teams, who were very close together in the WDC.
Real fans, of any sport, do get passionate about their sport and that includes the off sport politics. Cricket has had similar issues recently, Rugby Union and so on all have similar issues.
Most F1 teams actively continue to 'compete' when the races are over. Finding transgressions in the rules is one effective way of weakening a competitor - whether we (the fans) like it or not.
I have long said that all teams place too much emphasis on winning at any cost, satisfying sponsors, propping up their own egos but not enough time considering what the fans want. The fans are crucial to F1 - No fans, no sponsors, - no sponsors no F1. When these issues come up it leaves us fans feeling isolated from our sport because we don't really know what is going on, so we get into heated debates, based on opinion rather than fact, that do turn unnecessarily personal at times. I do agree with you that, sometimes the standards of some posts fall considerably short of reasoned discussion about F1 issues.

[piledriver]

No, not me. Just race and shut up. I'm not interested in politics. I want battles on the racetrack with a lot of teams involved.