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#324353
Just ran across this today which is pretty damned interesting... well, surprising actually considering that 3G services were being rolled out in the UK when the US as a whole only had 2 and 2.5G GSM national coverage. We've got 4G in hundreds of US cities and dozens of metro markets already deployed, with full coverage likely for the big carriers by mid year 2013.

The UK's mobile operators have agreed a new timetable for the roll-out of 4G services.

At a meeting with communications regulator Ofcom and the government, rival operators agreed to settle their differences and get services up and running quickly. The government said high-speed data services should launch by spring 2013, six months earlier than planned.

O2 and Vodafone have agreed not to pursue legal action against EE. Both had been unhappy that EE had been granted permission to add 4G to its existing network later this year.

EE is likely to announce when its services will go live imminently. "Delivering 4G quickly is a key part of our economic growth strategy," said Culture Secretary Maria Miller. "I am grateful to the mobile operators for their co-operation in bringing forward vital 4G services."

A combination of factors, from a change of government to threats of legal action from operators, had slowed down the process to free up spectrum used by analogue television broadcasts.

While the auction of the airwaves made available by the digital switchover is still scheduled for January next year, clearing them for 4G use will happen far more quickly than originally envisaged.

Ambitious roll-outs
Delays to the auction mean that the UK has fallen behind other countries. "After more than five years in the making, finally the schedule to award spectrum for 4G appears to have been agreed," said Matthew Howett, an analyst with research firm Ovum.

"In a matter of weeks, the UK has gone from being behind countries such as Angola, Azerbaijan and Uzbekistan to one with one of the most ambitious 4G roll-out strategies we have seen."

EE is likely to start the roll-out of its 4G services later this month. It asked Ofcom in November last year if it could use its existing spectrum for 4G services, and permission was granted in August. The service will run on its 1800MHz spectrum, a band not owned by either O2 or Vodafone. Three is also set to take ownership of some of EE's existing 4G-spectrum, but will not do so until September 2013.

EE has already promised to offer 4G services to 16 UK cities before the end of the year and aims to provide 4G to 98% of the UK by 2014. Rivals initially feared that its early launch would give EE an unfair advantage. The issue was compounded when it was revealed that Apple's first 4G-enabled handset, the iPhone 5, would only work on EE's network.

Now that O2 and Vodafone had dropped their threats of legal action to block the roll-out, they would still be playing catch-up, said Mr Howett.

"Ultimately the advantage EE has with its early 4G launch will depend on how well the other operators respond," he said.

"Much has been made of the iPhone 5 '4G exclusivity' that EE will have, however the other players have also been busy upgrading their 3G technologies, that for a time will almost rival EE's 4G speed capability."
#324362
4G in the UK has been a complete and utter farse, Ofcom as always are dragging their feet to keep with new technology because they don't dare upset the goverment's red tape.
#324389
The problem is that the 4G frequencies are causing problems with some military equipment. So it is a case of the MoD protecting the frequencies.

What are the military frequencies there? You guys use 900 and 1800 MHz for cellular while we use 800 and 1900 MHz. The transceivers have only gotten better over the years so I can't see why this is an issue now as the issue would have been there all along, unless you're deploying 4G services in a different spectrum altogether or just pushing too close to the boundaries of the existing spectrum.
#324424
The problem is that the 4G frequencies are causing problems with some military equipment. So it is a case of the MoD protecting the frequencies.

What are the military frequencies there? You guys use 900 and 1800 MHz for cellular while we use 800 and 1900 MHz. The transceivers have only gotten better over the years so I can't see why this is an issue now as the issue would have been there all along, unless you're deploying 4G services in a different spectrum altogether or just pushing too close to the boundaries of the existing spectrum.


Same reason that they reduce the GPS accuracy when the military are doing exercises on the west coast of Scotland.
#324465
The problem is that the 4G frequencies are causing problems with some military equipment. So it is a case of the MoD protecting the frequencies.

What are the military frequencies there? You guys use 900 and 1800 MHz for cellular while we use 800 and 1900 MHz. The transceivers have only gotten better over the years so I can't see why this is an issue now as the issue would have been there all along, unless you're deploying 4G services in a different spectrum altogether or just pushing too close to the boundaries of the existing spectrum.


Same reason that they reduce the GPS accuracy when the military are doing exercises on the west coast of Scotland.


Maybe, isn't there some sort of encryption that can be put on GPS to reduce the capabilities of "non friendly" forces. Which woud include civilian GPS'
#324677
The problem is that the 4G frequencies are causing problems with some military equipment. So it is a case of the MoD protecting the frequencies.

What are the military frequencies there? You guys use 900 and 1800 MHz for cellular while we use 800 and 1900 MHz. The transceivers have only gotten better over the years so I can't see why this is an issue now as the issue would have been there all along, unless you're deploying 4G services in a different spectrum altogether or just pushing too close to the boundaries of the existing spectrum.


Same reason that they reduce the GPS accuracy when the military are doing exercises on the west coast of Scotland.


Maybe, isn't there some sort of encryption that can be put on GPS to reduce the capabilities of "non friendly" forces. Which woud include civilian GPS'


It's some sort of localised jamming that's done during the excersizes, there were complaints it was affecting civilian shipping and rescue services but it's the US that controls the GPS satellites.

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