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[LewEngBridewell]

Ok, I don't listen to hippity hop music and P Duddly and wotnot.

So they haven't actually got 99 problems then? Just 3 or 4 which is normal for any F1 team.

Basically yes.

[andrew]

Ok, I don't listen to hippity hop music and P Duddly and wotnot.

So they haven't actually got 99 problems then? Just 3 or 4 which is normal for any F1 team.

Basically yes.

Glad to hear it.

[vaptin]

My argument was less than Mercedes. It's a competition, problems are only relevant relative to the other competitors.

[f1ea]

Ok, I don't listen to hippity hop music and P Duddly and wotnot.

So they haven't actually got 99 problems then? Just 3 or 4 which is normal for any F1 team.

Basically yes.

[Bulletproof]

During the 2010 and 2011 seasons Jenson out scored Lewis on overall points scored and on podium finishes, so looking at the stats, Jenson is a better overall driver who can deliver more points than Lewis. He is not quite as quick on raw pace, but with the tripe that is written in this thread anyone would think Jenson hadn't scored a single point since joining Mclaren.

I know this year Lewis is ahead a little but we'll just have to see where we end up at the end.

But for people to slag Jenson off as much as you lot do, I think it's unfounded.

[darwin dali]

During the 2010 and 2011 seasons Jenson out scored Lewis on overall points scored and on podium finishes, so looking at the stats, Jenson is a better overall driver who can deliver more points than Lewis. He is not quite as quick on raw pace, but with the tripe that is written in this thread anyone would think Jenson hadn't scored a single point since joining Mclaren.

I know this year Lewis is ahead a little but we'll just have to see where we end up at the end.

But for people to slag Jenson off as much as you lot do, I think it's unfounded.

You just became MOA's new BFF

[What's Burning?]

During the 2010 and 2011 seasons Jenson out scored Lewis on overall points scored and on podium finishes, so looking at the stats, Jenson is a better overall driver who can deliver more points than Lewis. He is not quite as quick on raw pace, but with the tripe that is written in this thread anyone would think Jenson hadn't scored a single point since joining Mclaren.

I know this year Lewis is ahead a little but we'll just have to see where we end up at the end.

But for people to slag Jenson off as much as you lot do, I think it's unfounded.

I don't know which 2010 season you watched, but the one I saw had Lewis beat Jenson on wins, podiums and points. Last year no one raced for anything but second, since there was nothing to really shoot for other than race wins, and both McLaren drives still scored 3 wins a piece, but give credit where credit is due, Jenson outscored Lewis indeed.

This year? Have you been watching the races this year and did you see the string of six or sever races Jeson put together?

[LewEngBridewell]

This must be the oldest argument in the world.

[darwin dali]

This must be the oldest argument in the world.

I'd think arguments during price negotiations in the oldest profession of the world are way older...

[vaptin]

This must be the oldest argument in the world.

Kinda provides insight into Israel/Palestine, get a UN committee studying doing a case study on the way positions and arguments can continue based on initial perceptions.

[LewEngBridewell]

This must be the oldest argument in the world.

I'd think arguments during price negotiations in the oldest profession of the world are way older...

Nah.

[darwin dali]

This must be the oldest argument in the world.

I'd think arguments during price negotiations in the oldest profession of the world are way older...

Nah.

You're the expert.

[LewEngBridewell]

This must be the oldest argument in the world.

I'd think arguments during price negotiations in the oldest profession of the world are way older...

Nah.

You're the expert.

Well observed

[What's Burning?]

This must be the oldest argument in the world.

I do apologize Lew... didn't mean to have it come off as, I was simply looking at the numbers. People are allowed their own opinions, but they're not allowed to make up their own facts.

[nikon133]

Good post!!
Where do you think it all started going wrong for McLaren?

When they made young Lewis equal to Alonso in his first F1 season ever.

Young driver, regardless raw talent, needs time to mature. Like some complex dishes needing time to cook on slow fire, otherwise overcook on the outside but remains raw on the inside. You don't want to elevate young driver to celebrity that quick; his expectations will skyrocket and he will never be realistic or satisfied in that environment.

I think this will do good for both Lewis and Mclaren, to break off unhealthy relation they have jump started before its time. I hope McL will not make the same mistake with this new youngster Peres.