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[myownalias]

Pedophilia is a sexual disorder, and as sickening as it is, it's still something that a person does because they cannot help themselves. So often they'll get a job where you're going to have easy access to children, schools, boy scouts, church etc. In a way you'd like to rehabilitate someone like that and perhaps have a means to, but I think that rehabilitation is something that may not be possible since I do believe there's a genetic component to it, but that's not the entire picture, often child abusers were molested themselves as children.

Well said WB. Yes, the consequences of paedophilia are nasty, especially for the child, but there's no doubting that it is a psychological / sexual disorder. Can you even begin to imagine if you were in their shoes, and possessed such feelings? Just IMAGINE what an incredibly unhappy and lonely existence you'd lead. I bet most of them hate themselves for it.

It's a very sad situation, and while hostility towards such a person is understandable, I often pause to think about the other side of the story too.

It maybe a psychological issue; but a mass murderer could also be described as having psychological issues; we all have urges, but most of us can exercise self control, I have an urge to drive everywhere at 150mph; but I don't as I can exercise self control. Having sexual feelings towards minors is one thing, acting on them is another, the psychological implications for the child is immeasurable. I believe that any person perpetrating a crime against children should be jailed for life and deserve everything they get in prison!

[Jabberwocky]

I know it has shaken a few of us who knew him (as there are only a limited amount of about 500 of us and we all move from place to place we all know someone who knows someone) So it has shaken out little "community" badly I suppose. It turns out that there seems to be a group of them caught at the same time, it makes me wonder how do they find each other?

[racechick]

Pedophilia is a sexual disorder, and as sickening as it is, it's still something that a person does because they cannot help themselves. So often they'll get a job where you're going to have easy access to children, schools, boy scouts, church etc. In a way you'd like to rehabilitate someone like that and perhaps have a means to, but I think that rehabilitation is something that may not be possible since I do believe there's a genetic component to it, but that's not the entire picture, often child abusers were molested themselves as children.

Well said WB. Yes, the consequences of paedophilia are nasty, especially for the child, but there's no doubting that it is a psychological / sexual disorder. Can you even begin to imagine if you were in their shoes, and possessed such feelings? Just IMAGINE what an incredibly unhappy and lonely existence you'd lead. I bet most of them hate themselves for it.

It's a very sad situation, and while hostility towards such a person is understandable, I often pause to think about the other side of the story too.

It maybe a psychological issue; but a mass murderer could also be described as having psychological issues; we all have urges, but most of us can exercise self control, I have an urge to drive everywhere at 150mph; but I don't as I can exercise self control. Having sexual feelings towards minors is one thing, acting on them is another, the psychological implications for the child is immeasurable. I believe that any person perpetrating a crime against children should be jailed for life and deserve everything they get in prison!

Having worked for years with young children and seen some of the results of abuse I have to agree with you Myown. Children are innocent and trusting and whilst the perpetrators may be unable to prevent their feelings they can decide not to act upon them. Similar to rapists really, except the victim is more vulnerable.

[What's Burning?]

Pedophilia is a sexual disorder, and as sickening as it is, it's still something that a person does because they cannot help themselves. So often they'll get a job where you're going to have easy access to children, schools, boy scouts, church etc. In a way you'd like to rehabilitate someone like that and perhaps have a means to, but I think that rehabilitation is something that may not be possible since I do believe there's a genetic component to it, but that's not the entire picture, often child abusers were molested themselves as children.

Well said WB. Yes, the consequences of paedophilia are nasty, especially for the child, but there's no doubting that it is a psychological / sexual disorder. Can you even begin to imagine if you were in their shoes, and possessed such feelings? Just IMAGINE what an incredibly unhappy and lonely existence you'd lead. I bet most of them hate themselves for it.

It's a very sad situation, and while hostility towards such a person is understandable, I often pause to think about the other side of the story too.

It maybe a psychological issue; but a mass murderer could also be described as having psychological issues; we all have urges, but most of us can exercise self control, I have an urge to drive everywhere at 150mph; but I don't as I can exercise self control. Having sexual feelings towards minors is one thing, acting on them is another, the psychological implications for the child is immeasurable. I believe that any person perpetrating a crime against children should be jailed for life and deserve everything they get in prison!

Having worked for years with young children and seen some of the results of abuse I have to agree with you Myown. Children are innocent and trusting and whilst the perpetrators may be unable to prevent their feelings they can decide not to act upon them. Similar to rapists really, except the victim is more vulnerable.

There is never a condoning of it, society as a whole sees pedophilia as one of it's worse offenses. And although I agree that if someone is guilty of the crime they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, but to say that the have a choice is not only myopic but factually and scientifically wrong. It would be the same as saying to you not to act on your sexual urges. Spouses know that cheating is also considered immoral, and society sees it as wrong, but yet there's a lot of it going on. Why, they should be able to control their urges but yet they don't.

We all have strong feelings about this, it's obvious especially those that have seen the impact of it first hand. But you can't believe that someone CHOOSES to be a pedophile.

Rape RC is altogether different, that is a crime of violence not sex.

[What's Burning?]

this is not a typical discussion for this thread.

[vaptin]

this is not a typical discussion for this thread.

It's what I like about this thread, people post things quite personal, and as they are personal from a quite random demographic, they tend to be varied, then people comment on that topic.

[racechick]

Pedophilia is a sexual disorder, and as sickening as it is, it's still something that a person does because they cannot help themselves. So often they'll get a job where you're going to have easy access to children, schools, boy scouts, church etc. In a way you'd like to rehabilitate someone like that and perhaps have a means to, but I think that rehabilitation is something that may not be possible since I do believe there's a genetic component to it, but that's not the entire picture, often child abusers were molested themselves as children.

Well said WB. Yes, the consequences of paedophilia are nasty, especially for the child, but there's no doubting that it is a psychological / sexual disorder. Can you even begin to imagine if you were in their shoes, and possessed such feelings? Just IMAGINE what an incredibly unhappy and lonely existence you'd lead. I bet most of them hate themselves for it.

It's a very sad situation, and while hostility towards such a person is understandable, I often pause to think about the other side of the story too.

It maybe a psychological issue; but a mass murderer could also be described as having psychological issues; we all have urges, but most of us can exercise self control, I have an urge to drive everywhere at 150mph; but I don't as I can exercise self control. Having sexual feelings towards minors is one thing, acting on them is another, the psychological implications for the child is immeasurable. I believe that any person perpetrating a crime against children should be jailed for life and deserve everything they get in prison!

Having worked for years with young children and seen some of the results of abuse I have to agree with you Myown. Children are innocent and trusting and whilst the perpetrators may be unable to prevent their feelings they can decide not to act upon them. Similar to rapists really, except the victim is more vulnerable.

There is never a condoning of it, society as a whole sees pedophilia as one of it's worse offenses. And although I agree that if someone is guilty of the crime they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, but to say that the have a choice is not only myopic but factually and scientifically wrong. It would be the same as saying to you not to act on your sexual urges. Spouses know that cheating is also considered immoral, and society sees it as wrong, but yet there's a lot of it going on. Why, they should be able to control their urges but yet they don't.

We all have strong feelings about this, it's obvious especially those that have seen the impact of it first hand. But you can't believe that someone CHOOSES to be a pedophile.

Rape RC is altogether different, that is a crime of violence not sex.

Well you dont have to cheat, the outcome isnt as damaging as paedophilia if you do choose to cheat ,as both are consenting adults and I guess its just tough on the cheated against one. With children its different. Its a violation against an innocent party and Id class that as an act of violence. I dont believe someone chooses to be a paedophile but they can choose not to act upon it. They could decide to put the childs feelings and rights before their own.

[What's Burning?]

Well that's what I'm saying, you don't have to cheat yet it still happens, how then can a pedophile be seen any different? A sexual urge for a cheating spouse that they act on, is no different than a sexual urge for a pedophile. I'm not saying that it's right I'm not saying there is any excuse for it, I'm merely putting it into the context that if you don't choose to be a pedophile because that is an inherent aspect of who you are as a person... as wrong as that may be, they're still going to act on it the same way a cheating spouse acts on something they know is socially not an accepted behavior.

Let's not get into a situation where we can't see the forest for the trees, it's a profoundly unfortunate aspect of humanity and the ramifications, cures, and remedies for the disorder are likely never going to be resolved in our lifetimes.

[darwin dali]

I say take the cheese grater to their d!ck and work it down to a little stump - see whether they still feel an urge after that!

[What's Burning?]

I say take the cheese grater to their d!ck and work it down to a little stump - see whether they still feel an urge after that!

Yes I know you'd volunteer the community service at your dungeon.

Kidding aside, yeah they probably would still feel the urge, they probably would still get a hold of kiddie pron so children would be victimized by others which is just as damaging and doesn't solve a thing.

[myownalias]

I say take the cheese grater to their d!ck and work it down to a little stump - see whether they still feel an urge after that!

Or as an alternative, how about Chemical Castration.

[racechick]

Until we have any better method of dealing with these people then yes, chemical or otherwise for repeat offenders. Children's safety takes priority.

[Jabberwocky]

It makes you think, when we have section events some of them the whole families are invited. it just damages your view of humanity as well.

[andrew]

Sex-offenders are punished quite harshly up here. They get sent to Peterhead Prison. If you have ever been to Peterhead you'll understand what I mean.

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Anyhoo, to something much more cheery. Did everyne in the UK enjoy the wind and rain last night and today? It was fun!

[scotty]

Anyhoo, to something much more cheery. Did everyne in the UK enjoy the wind and rain last night and today? It was fun!

Fun if you weren't driving in it! I drove from Glasgow to Leicester yesterday, and going down the M74 was really hellish. It was getting dark and was raining VERY hard at 6-7pm yesterday, and overtaking Lorries... eep, they create so much bloody spray, sometimes for a second when overtaking them i had literally no visibility at 70-80mph.