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#316996
How is it difficult to educate a whack? very few people start life as a whack - it's something they develop into. It's kids who loose touch with reality because they think their violent computer games and films that they are too young to watch are reality. I blame the parents.


Note that I didn't say educating A whack. I said educating whacks, as in... ALL whacks. And by whack, I dont mean a random weird guy who dresses funny, has no girlfriend and plays video games in his room all day. I mean mentally ill people. The kind of people that would think killing teenagers, or going into a movie theater and shooting everyone will solve whatever issue he's having with society.

Parents aren't behavioural experts, so how can you expect them to pinpoint these issues in their kids? it's difficult even to specialists. And even then, many of these whacks are already outside their nest when they go whacky, so maybe the parents actually did the best job in keeping that crap from happening, so there, it goes back to society's fault ;)

You see. The problem is not that there are untreated whacks. the problem is that these whacks, somehow easily managed to get their hands on a gun and a lot of ammo.

Anyone can kill people if they wanted to. But it would be a hell of a lot harder if they had to walk around and hide 5 tons of explosive stuff or a 55Gal container full of some poison or whatever..... I'm sure these guys would desist their plans if they knew there's no way they're getting the weapons they need.

Poor parenting is responsible for a lot of society's ills, but not for psychopathic behaviour. keeping psychopaths as far away from lethal weapons will limit the destruction. Removing weapons from the public will also alleviate violent drug crimes, and crimes committed by those awol kids you blame on poor parenting. Even if it is poor parenting society needs protecting from dangerous individuals. and controlling guns goes some way to doing that.


yeah. What she said ^ hehe

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#316999
It's a combination of loose gun laws and mal-adjusted kids turning into full blown whack jobs.

So you tighten up the gun laws and make them harder to get but leave the whack jobs alone. So they'll move onto running about with machette's or knives then you clamps down on knives and they run about with a fence post with a ruusty nail in the end.

It's the whacks jobs that are the problem. Over here it's knives that are the problem, in the US it's guns.
#317000
Yes seriously kinder surprises are banned in the US. Maybe one kid choked to death on one so it was banned. Now how many people have been killed in the us by people with guns?

I can understand the original reason for the founding fathers to add the right to bear arms to the charter. It was so the people could protect themselves from their own government. Since they were emancipating from British rule, they wanted to put in a check/balance thing to assure the people that this government would be different. And if you find it a problem, well here have a gun. But they had no idea what nationwide gun possession would become. It wasn't a big country with lots of crime back then. They could not have imagined. I think they would consider the NRA to be an unseemly partisan spin on their idea.
Plus, there's no way the people can defend themselves from the government now. In the words of comedian Tim Wilson, They had cannons and muskets, and we had cannons and muskets. Now they have Apache helicopters, F16s and nuclear weapns, and we have cannons and muskets.
#317011
So you tighten up the gun laws and make them harder to get but leave the whack jobs alone. So they'll move onto running about with machette's or knives then you clamps down on knives and they run about with a fence post with a ruusty nail in the end.


That's the point. Make 'em nutjobs try the machetes and home made bombs... let's see how many they get to kill on a machete rampage; and better yet... let's how many of em get blown up designing their perfect bomb or get arrested upon placing their first order of 750 kg of explosive substances.

Yea, this whole "constitutional right to bear arms" crap is old. Does not apply at all to the reality of today. If having arms is a legal constitutional right... how come some rich guy can't buy a F16 for defence?
#317125
New York's finest.
New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said all nine bystanders wounded in Friday's Empire State Building shooting had been hit with police gunfire, CNN reported Saturday morning.
#317129
New York's finest.
New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said all nine bystanders wounded in Friday's Empire State Building shooting had been hit with police gunfire, CNN reported Saturday morning.


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#317133
New York's finest.
New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said all nine bystanders wounded in Friday's Empire State Building shooting had been hit with police gunfire, CNN reported Saturday morning.

So they were firing randomly like headless chickens, aren't they supposed to be trained to distinguish between innocent civilians and gun wielding maniacs? :rolleyes:
#317137
New York's finest.
New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said all nine bystanders wounded in Friday's Empire State Building shooting had been hit with police gunfire, CNN reported Saturday morning.

So they were firing randomly like headless chickens, aren't they supposed to be trained to distinguish between innocent civilians and gun wielding maniacs? :rolleyes:


So it's the police that are the gun toting whack-jobs?! :yikes:
#317176
How about every police officer that graduates the academy has to be able to shoot an apple (symbolic right?) off of the police commissioner's head at 20 feet.

That'll make for a high turnover rate at the PD :hehe:
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