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[atommo]

I own an iPod shuffle... I got it for my birthday a few years ago and its decent. However I find the computer interface annoying at times, and the fact that if you want to add music to it from another computer it deletes all the music off it from before so you have to start from scratch :c.

Also Apple have messed around with the word "Phone". A phone was something you talked to people on, but Apples "iPhone" is like an computerised version of a swiss army knife. Sure, you can call people on it but you can also... check the weather, act as a sat-nav, browse the internet and so on. You get my point. It should be called the "iSAK" [iSwissArmyKnife] because I own a mobile phone and it does what was in the name- act as a means to communicate with people while on the go whereas the iPhone does that and a heck of a lot more. It just isn't in the same league and I don't like the way everyone is getting one and relying on them for so much. What was the saying... "Don't put all your eggs in the same basket". One failure- whether Apples' servers go down [maybe hacked, who knows] or a massive solar flare knocks out all the networks then loads of people are going to struggle. We're over dependant on the internet IMO.

Whoa, that was a progressive rant >_> guess I had a lot to put out there.

[myownalias]

Also Apple have messed around with the word "Phone". A phone was something you talked to people on, but Apples "iPhone" is like an computerised version of a swiss army knife. Sure, you can call people on it but you can also... check the weather, act as a sat-nav, browse the internet and so on. You get my point. It should be called the "iSAK" [iSwissArmyKnife] because I own a mobile phone and it does what was in the name- act as a means to communicate with people while on the go whereas the iPhone does that and a heck of a lot more. It just isn't in the same league and I don't like the way everyone is getting one and relying on them for so much. What was the saying... "Don't put all your eggs in the same basket". One failure- whether Apples' servers go down [maybe hacked, who knows] or a massive solar flare knocks out all the networks then loads of people are going to struggle. We're over dependant on the internet IMO.

It's the cost of progress, Apple's network going down won't affect the iPhone, except for not being able to backup your iPhone/iPad. And if a solar flare knocked out all the networks, your 'phone' will also be useless along with all the technology in the World... Personally I like the idea of having Internet, Email, Facebook, Twitter, Google+, Sat Nav and everything else on my phone!

[What's Burning?]

So how do you and your three friends like google+?

[atommo]

Personally I like the idea of having Internet, Email, Facebook, Twitter, Google+, Sat Nav and everything else on my phone!

Theres more practical problems like what if your iPhone got stolen? Theres so much in one place that if you lost it that would cause a pretty big problem depending on what was on there.

Also a solar flare would not make all the technology in the world useless. The only difference is there would not be a network. Even if circuits did overload and explode, you could rebuild and use more simple technology like calculators and radios.

[What's Burning?]

Unless you're in the business of espionage, what people want with your iPhone is to sell it on craigslist not the information in it. If someone is security conscious there are remote management programs that will work on both Android and iOS that will be secure/encrypted and can wipe the device remotely.

The benefits far outweigh any risk don't you think?

[atommo]

The benefits far outweigh any risk don't you think?

If you're careful then yes, but I can imagine quite a few who are not.

[myownalias]

Also a solar flare would not make all the technology in the world useless. The only difference is there would not be a network. Even if circuits did overload and explode, you could rebuild and use more simple technology like calculators and radios.

All technology can be rebuilt, why would rebuilding an Internet network be any harder than restoring a cell phone GSM network, for example? All infrastructure can be rebuilt, but before anything else, the electrical infrastructure would need to be repaired, as network and cellphone infrastructure is useless without power from the grid.

As for losing your phone, as most information is stored in the cloud; you'd just need to go online and change your password, it's not the end of the world if you lose your smartphone!

[f1ea]

This all happened because I recently bought a iPhone 4S. That's how much power I have in Apple's stocks.

[Hammer278]

I've owned 2 iPods from Apple, that's about it....their design is sleek and very long lasting, my old iPod has survived about 5 years of heavy usage including lots of gym use and still kicking. Something I appreciate from any product, reliability.

The reason I stay away from their phones is the 'sheep' factor...it's the least unique phone out there now since pretty much everyone has it! Today it's either the Galaxy Note or the 4S...which is why I've taken more than a year to make up my mind on which phone to get! Still having the Nokia C3 but decided on the Droid Razr Maxx with a 2 year package when I reach Switzerland.

As for their iPads, I don't see the sense in having one if I had a smartphone or an ultrabook, or both.

[acosmichippo]

You do realize four times as many people have android phones than iPhones, right?

[Hammer278]

That's cool...but many many people I know have an iPhone or a Samsung Galaxy SII/Note....and it's become too mainstream for me.

I settled on my future Motorola since it's not available in this country.

[atommo]

All technology can be rebuilt, why would rebuilding an Internet network be any harder than restoring a cell phone GSM network, for example? All infrastructure can be rebuilt, but before anything else, the electrical infrastructure would need to be repaired, as network and cellphone infrastructure is useless without power from the grid.

A mobile network is usually made from lots of cellphone towers, like radio masts but usually thinner and [taller?]. The internet is made from many satellites [and servers] so if a solar flare were to wipe the satellites out you would have lots and lots of rocket launches to do in order to restore a network the size of todays. Also the radiation would probably last quite a while if the solar flare was big enough to wipe out all the satellites in the sky, so if you tried to put more satellites up too quickly they could meet the same fate (Unless they have some coating that protects their electronics from high amounts of radiation).

[geetface9]

I don't dispute the Android benefits... I can use any device since I get a new one every month but no one has the fan base the ferver that Apple fans have... they're worse than Hamilton fans.

quite true!

[myownalias]

All technology can be rebuilt, why would rebuilding an Internet network be any harder than restoring a cell phone GSM network, for example? All infrastructure can be rebuilt, but before anything else, the electrical infrastructure would need to be repaired, as network and cellphone infrastructure is useless without power from the grid.

A mobile network is usually made from lots of cellphone towers, like radio masts but usually thinner and [taller?]. The internet is made from many satellites [and servers] so if a solar flare were to wipe the satellites out you would have lots and lots of rocket launches to do in order to restore a network the size of todays. Also the radiation would probably last quite a while if the solar flare was big enough to wipe out all the satellites in the sky, so if you tried to put more satellites up too quickly they could meet the same fate (Unless they have some coating that protects their electronics from high amounts of radiation).

Actually, the Internet does not rely on satellite communications, fibre-optic trunk cables run across the Atlantic and Pacific oceans connecting continents, phone systems are more reliant on satellite communications, especially when calling internationally. I know that there is critical protected Internet infrastructure in case of disaster, e.g. run on generators, internal power supplies, usually underground, almost impervious to electro-magnetic pulses, critical infrastructure is protected, albeit for official governmental use but there will still be a network as long as there are people to maintain it. The power's that be have realised the importance of network communications and do all they can to protect the infrastructure.

[What's Burning?]

Now you guys have strayed into my territory, there is no difference between the internet and a private IP network like MPLS or Frame Relay clouds back in the day. Most cell cites have high speed private IP networks connected to the LEC (local exchange carrier) that then routes that traffic back to the carrier's private IP network. But in MANY instances they share similar egress points or even run on the same connection just routed differently.

Other than privacy however, there is little difference between the internet and a private IP data network run by a Level 3 or AT&T (I'm not as familiar with other global data network carriers) They can also provide committed access rates, priority based service levels and high availability designs with active management but they'd still be just as susceptible to some sort of prolonged natural or man made disaster as a public network like the Internet. On site generators have roughly a day's fuel capacity and often less. RARELY will anyone use satellites for data transmission because they're exponentially more costly than terrestrial based networks. So that's the realm of the military TV broadcasters and Richard Branson's porn collection back up.