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[Stealthgate007]

yep here in Dallas. They gave us a shout out on Speed TV last year at the Wing House in Addison Texas. I'm a BMW-Sauber fan but track all the teams.

[al4x]

looking like renaults gonna be beating BMW next year,

you can change teams, its not too late lol

sorry im going off topic!

[Stealthgate007]

looking like renaults gonna be beating BMW next year,

you can change teams, its not too late lol

sorry im going off topic!

Hahahaaa... If mario can get the best out of what looks like one of the long horns accross the street from me, Renault will have there work cut out. However if AF keeps picking up tenths like pebbles on a beach then I don't know??

[al4x]

theres a lot of pebbles about you know! im most looking forward to a renault bmw fight this season, a proper one!

[Stealthgate007]

Absolutely!!! I am hoping there will be some parity and other get a shot. Thanks for the warm welcome to forum!!

[al4x]

hopefully youll be a vocal member! alot of mclaren supporters here!

[darwin dali]

Lets hope Max decides to follow through with his threats of removing Spanish GP's unless it stops. Mmmm. would he though????

Hm, didn't you guys (I mean not necessarily you personally) claim that MM is a fascist, nazi and what not? Now he's suddenly good enough to take action against one of the tenets of Naziism, i.e., racism...

[bud]

Lets hope Max decides to follow through with his threats of removing Spanish GP's unless it stops. Mmmm. would he though????

Hm, didn't you guys (I mean not necessarily you personally) claim that MM is a fascist, nazi and what not? Now he's suddenly good enough to take action against one of the tenets of Naziism, i.e., racism...

His father was a British Fascist and the way he runs the sport is not so different to a dictator who his father probably admired a great deal... no right minded member here ever claimed Max was a racist himself as far as i know of apart from bolow

[darwin dali]

Fascism is an authoritarian political ideology (generally tied to a mass movement) that considers the individual subordinate to the interests of the state, party or society as a whole. Fascists seek to forge a type of national unity, usually based on (but not limited to) ethnic, cultural, racial, religious attributes. The key attribute of fascism is intolerance of others: other religions, languages, political views, economic systems, cultural practices, etc. Various scholars attribute different characteristics to fascism, but the following elements are usually seen as its integral parts: nationalism, statism, militarism, totalitarianism, anti-communism, corporatism, populism, collectivism, autocracy and opposition to political and economic liberalism.

Nazism was the main form of National Socialism that emerged after World War I, and is generally considered by scholars to be a form of fascism.

Nazism was not a monolithic movement, but rather a (mainly German) combination of various ideologies and groups, sparked by anger at the Treaty of Versailles and what was considered to have been a Jewish/Communist conspiracy to humiliate Germany at the end of the First World War. The National Socialist party described itself as socialist, and at the time, conservative opponents such as the Industrial Employers Association described it as "totalitarian, terrorist, conspiratorial, and socialist."

Among the key elements of Nazism were anti-parliamentarism, ethnic nationalism, racism, collectivism, eugenics, antisemitism, opposition to economic liberalism and political liberalism, a racially-defined and conspiratorial view of finance capitalism, anti-communism, and totalitarianism.


As you can see, racism/ethnic nationalism is a key element in both these despicable -isms. You simply can't be a fascist or nazi w/o being a racist in one way or the other. Thus, with MM taking issue and possibly action against the Spanish racists (and even Spain as a whole in the form of a country that organizes F1 races or potentially not anymore because of this issue), how can he possibly be a fascist/nazi?
Also, both movements were opposed to economic liberalism, i.e., capitalism - F1 in its present form under its present management (BE) is one of the most capitalistic endeavors on the planet!

[bud]

again most on here who youre having a dig at compared him to a nazi or so forth based on his dictatorship style in leadership, added to the fact his father was a British fascist.
it was only bolow or lewis fan (arent they the same?)who ever called Max a racist

and you have taken the comparison too literally Darwin

[texasmr2]

DD,
Watchout you forgot to state or imply IMO or 'I think' into your post ! Wow is it just me or do you also get tired of being either 'misquoted' or 'misunderstood'? Maybe a "Dude I'm so not feeling you" should be substituted instead?

[Mr.Snuggles]

lolol It ain't really gonna be a fight
Reanualt are obviously gonna lose
also
(from last night)
Jenson is the superior British driver

[AKR]

Fascism, Nazism, Comunism , Racism......... I am just glad no matter which one exists in F1 that F1 at the end of day is fought on the race track with fast cars and talented drivers and not guns and bombs where people get killed. Moseley at the end of the day can be whatever one of those you would like to believe he is but I am glad F1 has no violence in it. (I don't think we will see a repeat of the recent Spain events happen again sometime soon). If F1 ever turned into a violent sport, I would walk away. Been there done that and it isn't fun. Bring on 2008 season. I don't want McLaren or Hamilton to win, but if they win then all who oppose them (Yes this is to Alonso Spanish supporters) just shutup and accept it. I kept quite during all those years Ferrari was s*** and although it may hurt its isn't that hard to do you know.......

[bud]

DD,
Watchout you forgot to state or imply IMO or 'I think' into your post ! Wow is it just me or do you also get tired of being either 'misquoted' or 'misunderstood'? Maybe a "Dude I'm so not feeling you" should be substituted instead?

Youre still on this tirade? FFS

Darwin made a claim, asked a question and i answered it

[Mr.Snuggles]

i Think this Forum should take up betting
now we all know ther would be alot of money going on