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By zurich_allan
#314790
Number of races would be a better measure of loyalty than number of years.


I agree it would be better, but I don't have enough hours in the day to work that out over 35 seasons.... some seasons with 18 races, some with 16, some with 17 etc... For me, years is close enough to something understandable and comparable.
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By Jabberwocky
#314808
Redbull have had 6 drivers in 7 years, so that is 0.85 drivers a year


The statistics being presented in this way give a misleading picture though. In these examples, each of the teams has had two seats available each season, but the way these figures are being presented is as though there were only one seat available. Do you understand what I mean?

So for Red Bull, in 7 years that works out at 14 seats available at that team. 6 drivers have filled those seats = driver change every 2 1/3 years.

0.85 drivers a year doesn't really mean anything....


Edit: Williams presented the same, more understandable way is, in 35 years, 70 seats available, 37 drivers in that time = driver change every 1.9 years.


Williams did not always have 2 cars to present. So even that could be miss leading

1977
Patrick Neve

1978
Alan Jones

1979
Alan Jones
Clay Regazzoni

1980
Alan Jones
Carlos Reutemann

1981
Alan Jones
Carlos Reutemann

1982
Carlos Reutemann
Keke Rosberg
Mario Andretti
Derek Daly

1983
Keke Rosberg
Jacques Laffite
Jonathan Palmer

1984
Keke Rosberg
Jacques Laffite

1985
Keke Rosberg
Nigel Mansell

1986
Nigel Mansell
Nelson Piquet

1987
Nigel Mansell
Nelson Piquet
Riccardo Patrese

1988
Nigel Mansell
Riccardo Patrese
Martin Brundle
Jean-Louis Schlesser

1989
Riccardo Patrese
Thierry Boutsen

1990
Riccardo Patrese
Thierry Boutsen

1991
Riccardo Patrese
Nigel Mansell

1992
Riccardo Patrese
Nigel Mansell

1993
Alain Prost
Damon Hill

1994
Damon Hill
Ayrton Senna
David Coulthard
Nigel Mansell

1995
Damon Hill
David Coulthard

1996
Damon Hill
Jacques Villeneuve

1997
Jacques Villeneuve
Heinz-Harald Frentzen

1998
Jacques Villeneuve
Heinz-Harald Frentzen

1999
Ralf Schumacher
Alessandro Zanardi

2000
Ralf Schumacher
Jenson Button

2001
Ralf Schumacher
Juan Pablo Montoya

2002
Ralf Schumacher
Juan Pablo Montoya

2003
Ralf Schumacher
Juan Pablo Montoya
Marc Gene

2004
Ralf Schumacher
Juan Pablo Montoya
Marc Gene
Antonio Pizzonia

2005
Mark Webber
Nick Heidfeld
Antonio Pizzonia

2006
Mark Webber
Nico Rosberg

2007
Nico Rosberg
Alexander Wurz
Kazuki Nakajima

2008
Nico Rosberg
Kazuki Nakajima

2009
Nico Rosberg
Kazuki Nakajima

2010
Rubens Barrichello
Nico Hülkenberg

2011
Rubens Barrichello
Pastor Maldonado

2012
Pastor Maldonado
Bruno Senna
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By zurich_allan
#314824
Redbull have had 6 drivers in 7 years, so that is 0.85 drivers a year


The statistics being presented in this way give a misleading picture though. In these examples, each of the teams has had two seats available each season, but the way these figures are being presented is as though there were only one seat available. Do you understand what I mean?

So for Red Bull, in 7 years that works out at 14 seats available at that team. 6 drivers have filled those seats = driver change every 2 1/3 years.

0.85 drivers a year doesn't really mean anything....


Edit: Williams presented the same, more understandable way is, in 35 years, 70 seats available, 37 drivers in that time = driver change every 1.9 years.


Williams did not always have 2 cars to present. So even that could be miss leading

1977
Patrick Neve

1978
Alan Jones

1979
Alan Jones
Clay Regazzoni

1980
Alan Jones
Carlos Reutemann

1981
Alan Jones
Carlos Reutemann

1982
Carlos Reutemann
Keke Rosberg
Mario Andretti
Derek Daly

1983
Keke Rosberg
Jacques Laffite
Jonathan Palmer

1984
Keke Rosberg
Jacques Laffite

1985
Keke Rosberg
Nigel Mansell

1986
Nigel Mansell
Nelson Piquet

1987
Nigel Mansell
Nelson Piquet
Riccardo Patrese

1988
Nigel Mansell
Riccardo Patrese
Martin Brundle
Jean-Louis Schlesser

1989
Riccardo Patrese
Thierry Boutsen

1990
Riccardo Patrese
Thierry Boutsen

1991
Riccardo Patrese
Nigel Mansell

1992
Riccardo Patrese
Nigel Mansell

1993
Alain Prost
Damon Hill

1994
Damon Hill
Ayrton Senna
David Coulthard
Nigel Mansell

1995
Damon Hill
David Coulthard

1996
Damon Hill
Jacques Villeneuve

1997
Jacques Villeneuve
Heinz-Harald Frentzen

1998
Jacques Villeneuve
Heinz-Harald Frentzen

1999
Ralf Schumacher
Alessandro Zanardi

2000
Ralf Schumacher
Jenson Button

2001
Ralf Schumacher
Juan Pablo Montoya

2002
Ralf Schumacher
Juan Pablo Montoya

2003
Ralf Schumacher
Juan Pablo Montoya
Marc Gene

2004
Ralf Schumacher
Juan Pablo Montoya
Marc Gene
Antonio Pizzonia

2005
Mark Webber
Nick Heidfeld
Antonio Pizzonia

2006
Mark Webber
Nico Rosberg

2007
Nico Rosberg
Alexander Wurz
Kazuki Nakajima

2008
Nico Rosberg
Kazuki Nakajima

2009
Nico Rosberg
Kazuki Nakajima

2010
Rubens Barrichello
Nico Hülkenberg

2011
Rubens Barrichello
Pastor Maldonado

2012
Pastor Maldonado
Bruno Senna


Well yes, but by far more often than not, so it's much more likely to be at least close to accurate. Think it takes it down to average change every 1.84 years. And to be fair, even that is's really fair, as many of the changes were for a single race or a few races covering for illness or injury as opposed to being legitimate driver changes, so it's likely actually above one every two years in reality. Either way, talking in these terms makes much more sense in general.

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