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[andrew]

Has he? Can't say I've noticed.

Can't say I'm surprised at a businessman being naughty. Everyday occurrence really.

[LRW]

Has he? Can't say I've noticed.

Can't say I'm surprised at a businessman being naughty. Everyday occurrence really.

Yeah, I suppose knowing the facts of a story does tend to help your side of the argument..... you might want to try it sometime..

[andrew]

Didn't think I needed given the bad press the old coot gets on here.

[racechick]

So innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply here then?

Innocent? He has admitted to the bribes. He is guilty as

" I gave him money because otherwise I'd have to pay a big tax bill" Yep Bernie that's how it works. Bernie's an arse!

[andrew]

He's an arse? Just 'cos he did something that all of us would do given the opportunity?

[racechick]

He's an arse? Just 'cos he did something that all of us would do given the opportunity?

Speak for yourself. I despise Bernie and his modus operandi!!

[andrew]

He's an arse? Just 'cos he did something that all of us would do given the opportunity?

Speak for yourself. I despise Bernie and his modus operandi!!

He's a typical businessman. They're all at, just most are not so high profile.

[Yoruba]

^^ Can't say I don't agree. As some say in business, it's not a crime if you don't get caught.

[What's Burning?]

Warren Buffet is a typical business man and he just donated 1.5 billion dollars to the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation which is roughly half of Bernie's estimated net worth. So they're not all the same. A poor @sshole and a rich @sshole have one thing in common.

[andrew]

Not all the same? You don't reach a point where you have that sort of cash to throw about by being a nice guy all your life.

[What's Burning?]

You're so silly Andrew. You made a generalization, and I gave you an example about how they're not all alike, at least on the surface. Your response to that is another generalized statement about rich people? I don't know the guy, but guess what? Given his body of work, his history and the way he's handled his public and personal life has me pretty well convinced he's a much nicer guy that Bernie.

[andrew]

I'm being silly because I don't believe that someone who has made billions is a nice chap. Right....

You'll never convince me that those businessmen and women who have made billions are anything more than self interested scum no matter what their public image shows. Someone much wiser than me once said that you don't get anywhere by being nice.

[racechick]

Some suscessful people use their position to improve the world for others. Whilst other successful people remain completely self interested arseholes. Guess which group Bernie falls into?

[andrew]

Oh come on, they are all self interested! A few donations don't alter that. It's all PR.

[racechick]

Oh come on, they are all self interested! A few donations don't alter that. It's all PR.

They dont need the PR .And much is done anonymously.