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[LewEngBridewell]

The simple answer would be have grass immediately outside the white line and gravel a car's width from the edge of the edge of the track.

Ahhh the days of grass and gravel........ both seem like an endangered species, unfortunately.

As Martin Brundle pointed out, if grass and gravel were as they were, about 2 people would've finished FP in one piece!

Ah, but the driving mentality would have been different; the reason so many cars go off is because they know they can push the limits without penalty!

[LewEngBridewell]

Here's a stupid statement from Seb:

"That was not nice of Lewis. I don't see why he was racing us," said Vettel. "If he wants to go fast he should drop back and find a gap. It was stupid as he was a lap down."

What a COLOSSAL JERK!

[Ferrari man 009]

The simple answer would be have grass immediately outside the white line and gravel a car's width from the edge of the edge of the track.

Why not have a bit of grass then Tarmac run off. That way it penalises running just wide but is still safe for cars spinning along way off.

[Hammer278]

As I said earlier this weekend, his true colours are coming out when he doesn't have a dominant car on the grid. Lots of whining and whinging from Sebastian Bieber this weekend.

[LewEngBridewell]

As I said earlier this weekend, his true colours are coming out when he doesn't have a dominant car on the grid. Lots of whining and whinging from Sebastian Bieber this weekend.

Very true. And Horner. Alongside Marko, the whole lot of them are pathetic.

[andrew]

Ahhh, but it's all about the FREE WEEKEND!!!

It's not a free weeked if you don't have the right sort of gadgets.

[myownalias]

The simple answer would be have grass immediately outside the white line and gravel a car's width from the edge of the edge of the track.

Why not have a bit of grass then Tarmac run off. That way it penalises running just wide but is still safe for cars spinning along way off.

Better than what we have now; but it still doesn't punish enough in my view and it's still possible to gain an advantage as long as they move to the tarmac off the track; jumping over some short grass doesn't slow a car much after mashing the accelerator on the tarmac off the track!

[Darriele]

The simple answer would be have grass immediately outside the white line and gravel a car's width from the edge of the edge of the track.

Ahhh the days of grass and gravel........ both seem like an endangered species, unfortunately.

As Martin Brundle pointed out, if grass and gravel were as they were, about 2 people would've finished FP in one piece!

Ah, but the driving mentality would have been different; the reason so many cars go off is because they know they can push the limits without penalty!

Yet we should be thankful, no fatalities occurred since Ayrton Senna's one, tho we had some really bad incidents after. like Michael's or Massa's. Martin must be a out of his mind to think of that kind of stupid stuff, the last thing I want to see during a Grand Prix is a fatality, grass and gravel may look good on TV when drivers are stuck in it, but those are also deadly traps for our beloved drivers (imagine a car going 200+km/h on grass or gravel straight into the barriers). There's a good reason why potential "hard" corners have a good asphalt area around it, as asphalt is the best to slow down a car.

[andrew]

The simple answer would be have grass immediately outside the white line and gravel a car's width from the edge of the edge of the track.

Ahhh the days of grass and gravel........ both seem like an endangered species, unfortunately.

As Martin Brundle pointed out, if grass and gravel were as they were, about 2 people would've finished FP in one piece!

Ah, but the driving mentality would have been different; the reason so many cars go off is because they know they can push the limits without penalty!

Yet we should be thankful, no fatalities occurred since Ayrton Senna's one, tho we had some really bad incidents after. like Michael's or Massa's. Martin must be a out of his mind to think of that kind of stupid stuff, the last thing I want to see during a Grand Prix is a fatality, grass and gravel may look good on TV when drivers are stuck in it, but those are also deadly traps for our beloved drivers (imagine a car going 200+km/h on grass or gravel straight into the barriers). There's a good reason why potential "hard" corners have a good asphalt area around it, as asphalt is the best to slow down a car.

Well Brundle is a monumental idiot......

I rate him as highly as I rate Eddie Jordan.

[Darriele]

The simple answer would be have grass immediately outside the white line and gravel a car's width from the edge of the edge of the track.

Ahhh the days of grass and gravel........ both seem like an endangered species, unfortunately.

As Martin Brundle pointed out, if grass and gravel were as they were, about 2 people would've finished FP in one piece!

Ah, but the driving mentality would have been different; the reason so many cars go off is because they know they can push the limits without penalty!

Yet we should be thankful, no fatalities occurred since Ayrton Senna's one, tho we had some really bad incidents after. like Michael's or Massa's. Martin must be a out of his mind to think of that kind of stupid stuff, the last thing I want to see during a Grand Prix is a fatality, grass and gravel may look good on TV when drivers are stuck in it, but those are also deadly traps for our beloved drivers (imagine a car going 200+km/h on grass or gravel straight into the barriers). There's a good reason why potential "hard" corners have a good asphalt area around it, as asphalt is the best to slow down a car.

Well Brundle is a monumental idiot......

I rate him as highly as I rate Eddie Jordan.

I would not jump the gun so fast. Both of them raced during a different time, years and years ago, things changed a lot since their prime time. The thing is, drivers safety is first and every circuit should be molded regarding that. So screw green zones, or gravel ones, everything that might contribute to a possible fatality have no place in current formula 1.

[Hammer278]

I think Brundle is one of the best commentators I've heard on any broadcast. Saying something silly once in a while isn't so bad. I have an idiot on my broadcast who says something stupid in every race. In this one he was practically screaming about how Jenson was attacking Vettel (when it was Hamilton who had come out of the pits a lap down) and Chandhok had to tell him to shut the f*ck up and point out its Hamilton. Little things like that. I'm almost used to it.

[NocturnalTendencies]

Kimi's official FB page posted Vettel was punished then followed it up with no confirmation yet.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/KIMI-RAI ... 4028536491

Finally Seb has been penalized, Kimi finished 3rd this race.

No confirmation yet. Be calm

Who knows what's going on right now.

Edit: Nevermind... fan page.

[LewEngBridewell]

I think Brundle is one of the best commentators I've heard on any broadcast. Saying something silly once in a while isn't so bad. I have an idiot on my broadcast who says something stupid in every race. In this one he was practically screaming about how Jenson was attacking Vettel (when it was Hamilton who had come out of the pits a lap down) and Chandhok had to tell him to shut the f*ck up and point out its Hamilton. Little things like that. I'm almost used to it.

Priceless!

[Frontrunner]

This is another reason why this track layout is crap, now here we are all talking about the actual confines on the track. There are like 3 or 4 corners where drivers run wide off the track on a regular basis.

[andrew]

None of them are a patch on Murray Walker.