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[LRW]

I cant help but enjoy the post-race bitch fights in these forums!!

It's only natural though. Especially after a race as emotionally charged as that one... popular drivers retiring, some of them in debatable circumstances...

You think its debatable...? Well then you are a big fat smelly poo head........*

*just trying to get involved....

I was preparing to write a vicious response.... and then I read the small text... you're lucky this time....

I usually make my subtext a lot smaller, but didnt want to risk you missing it, and not getting the joke! ha ha!!

[andrew]

I cant help but enjoy the post-race bitch fights in these forums!!

It's only natural though. Especially after a race as emotionally charged as that one... popular drivers retiring, some of them in debatable circumstances...

You think its debatable...? Well then you are a big fat smelly poo head........*

*just trying to get involved....

I was preparing to write a vicious response.... and then I read the small text... you're lucky this time....

I usually make my subtext a lot smaller, but didnt want to risk you missing it, and not getting the joke! ha ha!!

Not to mention coloured very faintly so it's near invisible you sly one you.

[vaptin]

I cant help but enjoy the post-race bitch fights in these forums!!

It's only natural though. Especially after a race as emotionally charged as that one... popular drivers retiring, some of them in debatable circumstances...

It wasn't always like this. It's got worse of late.

I dunno, it's been like this as long as I can remember.
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Anyway, everyones ignoring the amazing stuff by Alonso!

He drove like a demon out there.

Made up places at the start, got stuck behind Hulkenburg for a while, got told to push after and he did, jumping Maldonaldo and Kimi who pitted before him. Diced through the cars yet to stop. Started to close up on Lewis, got in front of him due to Lewis's poor pitstop, wonderful safety car restart and made it passed Grosjean. Vettel had a problem, then Grosjean but Alonso pulled out a fair gap over Lewis, whose tyres overcooked trying to keep up with him (they pitted on the same lap).

[LRW]

I usually make my subtext a lot smaller, but didnt want to risk you missing it, and not getting the joke! ha ha!!

Not to mention coloured very faintly so it's near invisible you sly one you. [/quote]

No I dont*
*Ok, yes, you are right, I do. he he.

[LewEngBridewell]

Right, this is my take on the incident involving Pastor Maldonado and Lewis Hamilton.

First of all, it's a very difficult scenario with mitigating circumstances. It's still being discussed over in the stewards office and I fully expect Pastor to be penalised.

What seemed to cause a heated altercation in the chatroom (and yes I am still a little offended... see my earlier post a few pages back), was that I feel the blame for the accident ITSELF lies entirely with Maldonado. Yes, he was run off road, but Pastor did EXACTLY the same to Kimi Raikkonen earlier in the race. Kimi had the sense to back out, and the crash was duly avoided.

When Pastor was put in the same position, which often happens with overtaking "attempts" such as these, he made a point of driving all over the off-road section and ploughing straight back onto the circuit. This was only ever going to result in a collision.

However, what upsets me more, is that Pastor is renowned for getting far too reckless in these heated battles, and Lewis should have taken this into account. His tyres were shot, and Maldonado had the pace. He was going to get by at some point, and I think Lewis was silly to try and prevent this. Sharing track-space with Maldonado will always end in tears, and he still went ahead and tried to tame him.

Following Sebastian Vettel's retirement, the WCC was looking good for McLaren. But now, it's worse than ever.

So in summary, Pastor was entirely to blame for the accident, but Lewis, I think, should've foreseen disaster as soon as the Williams was in his mirrors.

[vaptin]

The standout performers might be Redbull, Vettel had a (relatively) massive lead and it didn't get any smaller when Grosjean was in front of Hamilton. Webber made up loads of ground too.

I think Hamilton's incident, and poor pitstop is also marking a concerning race performance from McLaren, he couldn't keep up with Vettel, was passed by Grosjean, and his tyres fell away at the end of the race when I think pretty much all the leaders had pitted on the same lap.

[Hammer278]

Right, this is my take on the incident involving Pastor Maldonado and Lewis Hamilton.

First of all, it's a very difficult scenario with mitigating circumstances. It's still being discussed over in the stewards office and I fully expect Pastor to be penalised.

What seemed to cause a heated altercation in the chatroom (and yes I am still a little offended... see my earlier post a few pages back), was that I feel the blame for the accident ITSELF lies entirely with Maldonado. Yes, he was run off road, but Pastor did EXACTLY the same to Kimi Raikkonen earlier in the race. Kimi had the sense to back out, and the crash was duly avoided.

When Pastor was put in the same position, which often happens with overtaking "attempts" such as these, he made a point of driving all over the off-road section and ploughing straight back onto the circuit. This was only ever going to result in a collision.

However, what upsets me more, is that Pastor is renowned for getting far too reckless in these heated battles, and Lewis should have taken this into account. His tyres were shot, and Maldonado had the pace. He was going to get by at some point, and I think Lewis was silly to try and prevent this. Sharing track-space with Maldonado will always end in tears, and he still went ahead and tried to tame the lunatic.

Following Sebastian Vettel's retirement, the WCC was looking good for McLaren. But now, it's worse than ever.

So in summary, Pastor was entirely to blame for the accident, but Lewis, I think, should've foreseen disaster as soon as the Williams was in his mirrors.

McLaren doesn't even deserve 2nd place in the WCC, they're pathetic this season in every way except for the car itself.

What they should be worried about is a big gap now to Alonso and they need to make it up, fast.

[Injen]

Right, this is my take on the incident involving Pastor Maldonado and Lewis Hamilton.

First of all, it's a very difficult scenario with mitigating circumstances. It's still being discussed over in the stewards office and I fully expect Pastor to be penalised.

What seemed to cause a heated altercation in the chatroom (and yes I am still a little offended... see my earlier post a few pages back), was that I feel the blame for the accident ITSELF lies entirely with Maldonado. Yes, he was run off road, but Pastor did EXACTLY the same to Kimi Raikkonen earlier in the race. Kimi had the sense to back out, and the crash was duly avoided.

When Pastor was put in the same position, which often happens with overtaking "attempts" such as these, he made a point of driving all over the off-road section and ploughing straight back onto the circuit. This was only ever going to result in a collision.

However, what upsets me more, is that Pastor is renowned for getting far too reckless in these heated battles, and Lewis should have taken this into account. His tyres were shot, and Maldonado had the pace. He was going to get by at some point, and I think Lewis was silly to try and prevent this. Sharing track-space with Maldonado will always end in tears, and he still went ahead and tried to tame the lunatic.

Following Sebastian Vettel's retirement, the WCC was looking good for McLaren. But now, it's worse than ever.

So in summary, Pastor was entirely to blame for the accident, but Lewis, I think, should've foreseen disaster as soon as the Williams was in his mirrors.

Yeah,i have to agree,i was shouting to Lewis to just settle for 4th.

[Jabberwocky]

I have one comment to make about this race

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[LewEngBridewell]

I have one comment to make about this race

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11645

Spoil sport.

[Speed racer]

What a race!!!!!!

Just found these forums now as I wanted to see some discussions taking place.

Felt sorry for Hamilton, first the bad stop and then the crash. I really think Ham wouldn't
have put up a huge fight if Maldanado was patient and made a good move. Watching the replays I don't
see how Hamilton could have predicted and avoided the crash, it was very un-F1 like to see someone just
swerve across the road right into another car. Maldanado needs to learn you need to look for the right moments
to make a pass, once he ran wide he should have gotten behind and positioned for a move later on. Hamilton did
not have to get off his line to let Mal get back on to the track, don't know why guys here are saying that???

Alonso did benefit from the misfortunes of others but there was no doubt he drove the wheels off of that Ferrari
from the first lap. He made some good passing moves and drove fearlessly, what a race for the Spanish fans in attendance!

[Hammer278]

Right, this is my take on the incident involving Pastor Maldonado and Lewis Hamilton.

First of all, it's a very difficult scenario with mitigating circumstances. It's still being discussed over in the stewards office and I fully expect Pastor to be penalised.

What seemed to cause a heated altercation in the chatroom (and yes I am still a little offended... see my earlier post a few pages back), was that I feel the blame for the accident ITSELF lies entirely with Maldonado. Yes, he was run off road, but Pastor did EXACTLY the same to Kimi Raikkonen earlier in the race. Kimi had the sense to back out, and the crash was duly avoided.

When Pastor was put in the same position, which often happens with overtaking "attempts" such as these, he made a point of driving all over the off-road section and ploughing straight back onto the circuit. This was only ever going to result in a collision.

However, what upsets me more, is that Pastor is renowned for getting far too reckless in these heated battles, and Lewis should have taken this into account. His tyres were shot, and Maldonado had the pace. He was going to get by at some point, and I think Lewis was silly to try and prevent this. Sharing track-space with Maldonado will always end in tears, and he still went ahead and tried to tame the lunatic.

Following Sebastian Vettel's retirement, the WCC was looking good for McLaren. But now, it's worse than ever.

So in summary, Pastor was entirely to blame for the accident, but Lewis, I think, should've foreseen disaster as soon as the Williams was in his mirrors.

Yeah,i have to agree,i was shouting to Lewis to just settle for 4th.

"I really don't remember, all I remember is sitting in the wall, so... that's racing," Hamilton said. "You just have to suck it up and move forward. I'm looking forward to Silverstone - a big congratulations to Fernando [Alonso] I think he did a great job today. It's definitely tough but we still have many more races."

When asked if he would have been able to hold off Maldonado to the end of the race without the collision Hamilton replied: "No, my tyres were gone so I don't know where I would have finished.

"The last lap all of a sudden the tyres just went, it was almost like I had flat tyres at the back. But we've got a lot of work to do to try and pick up the pace because we were really struggling today.

Hamilton also dismissed the notion that he could have relinquished the position more easily.

"You never let people past, you've got to race for every position you can get."

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It's why we support him guys, he's a pure bred racer. Sh*t happens, when sh*theads are on track.

[FerrariFan63]

Alonso drove a superb race, and his victory is very much deserved.

I actually think that Hamilton drove a very good race too, and he didn't deserve to end it in the wall. That was PM's fault, in my opinion.

[Speed racer]

Alonso drove a superb race, and his victory is very much deserved.

I actually think that Hamilton drove a very good race too, and he didn't deserve to end it in the wall. That was PM's fault, in my opinion.

I agree, Alonso was definitely the most exciting driver to watch today.
He outdrives people in cars that perform better than his own.

[LRW]

Just watching the re-runs of the Hamilton/Maldonado crash, on SkyF1.

In the onboard replay from Maldonados car, when he is coming back onto the track, he is almost on full lock to the left, trying to take the corner. But because he rides up on the curb, he just goes straight forward.

This I believe will give the Stewards reason to give Pastor the benefit of the doubt, and will let him off without penalty.