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#307988
Peter Windsor, ESPNF1:

I continue to be staggered by the number of so-called F1 experts who complain about the current era of Pirelli tyre performance. It's becoming a 'tyre formula', they groan. "It's no longer about the best car and driver," they complain.

Actually, on reflection, I guess we shouldn't be too surprised by the whining. Fashion, and following the pack, is everything in F1 - and many are those who do not wish to be left behind, even it if does mean re-writing a large chunk of history. Just when it became obvious, for example, that F1 needed the involvement of a gigantic car company like Toyota much more than Toyota needed F1, the Clamoring Throng decided to make Toyota the next Easy Target: what could smaller, established teams do with Toyota's budget? And why did they allow FOR the team to be run by a committee in Japan when autocratic Team Principals were doing the job superbly well in England? It was as if the F1 establishment wanted Toyota to pull out.

And so Toyota did. F1 lost the support and endorsement of what was then the world's biggest car company.

It was a similar story with Michelin. There were two easy solutions at Indianapolis, 2005: either a chicane should have been created; or, failing that, the Michelin runners should have started, nursed their tyres and raced for a point or two. It wouldn't have been the first time in F1 history that the teams and drivers would have mustered around their tyre supplier in order to limit the damage.

Instead, Michelin were hung out to dry with zero support from the F1 industry. The Michelin teams didn't return to the US that winter to apologize to US race fans; F1 as an industry didn't even show its support for Michelin. It was almost as if none of the F1 teams - amazing as it may seem! - had ever made mistakes in their own right…

And then, subsequent to Indy, key teams like Ferrari were allowed to accuse Michelin of cheating, claiming that their groove design was "guilty of a flagrant and deliberate breach of the technical regulations." That was never proved in a court of law - but the damage was instantly done. On the back of Indy, Michelin had no option but to withdraw.

Thus F1 created its most recent tyre monopoly. No-one complained when Bridgestone stepped smoothly into the breach, for Bridgestone had a wealth of development data on which to draw, a massive budget to spend and plenty of peripherals to sponsor. No-one even demanded an explanation from the FIA when the whole tyre groove regulation was suddenly forgotten; everyone relaxed and enjoyed the presence of the Japanese moguls. What no-one foresaw, of course - because F1 people are not brilliant at thinking more than a few months in advance, particularly when the money is flowing - was the downturn in the Japanese economy. Suddenly, with only about 12 months' warning, Bridgestone, too, announced their withdrawal.

The fallback, should no tyre company be attracted to F1, was always going to be the 'in-house' tyre option: F1 would effectively make its own tyres, brand the sidewalls if possible and live with the consequences. Not good. Not good for the technical pinnacle of motor sport - and not good for F1's prestige (or for its budgets). Tobacco money had gone; the dot-com bubble had burst; Toyota, Honda and BMW had pulled out; and Michelin and Bridgestone had both departed.

Then, at the last minute, Pirelli arrived. Of course they would not have the budget spend of a Bridgestone or the technical depth of a Michelin. How could they? On the other hand, Pirelli had/have enormous history in motor sport; a great brand and a great range of road tyres; plenty of enthusiasm - and both creativity and taste. Pirelli is, after all, an Italian company.

So you'd think, after the debacle that was Michelin's departure, or in the sad vacuum left by the big car companies, that F1 would for once have learned its lesson: which is (at the risk of stating the obvious) that F1 needs Pirelli much more than Pirelli needs F1. You'd think that all the teams would have the sense to keep any criticism that may damage Pirelli's public image behind closed doors. You'd think that there would be a common, carefully orchestrated, pro-Pirelli policy.

Because being a monopoly tyre supplier in F1 is a bit like being an 'elected' leader of a military dictatorship: you only get noticed when things don't go to plan. When the tyres are 'perfect' it is the teams and drivers that get the credit, never the tyres. When a race is defined by a 'tyre issue' or - worse - there is a tyre failure - we all know where the spotlight will fall.

As it happens, Pirelli have an impeccable record so far in terms of real tyre 'problems.' They have produced a range of compounds in concert with an F1 market survey that demanded "more overtaking" and "closer racing". They have tried to be innovative when it comes to colours and graphics. They have provided more running data than any tyre company in the history of the sport. They have shrugged away unfounded criticism without rising to the bait.

And most F1 teams, to be fair, have in return been very positive about Pirelli - and have done their best to help Pirelli maximize their investment.

Some, though, have allowed their drivers to be excessively critical - seemingly oblivious to the damage that can subsequently be caused by the New Media groundswell. In these days of Twitter, Facebook and the Blogosphere, justifying these comments with the response "It's only one driver's opinion" is about as naïve as believing that Pirelli have money to burn. It's as if these people have no knowledge of the history of F1's tyre monopoly, or played no part in the withdrawal of Michelin, or have no understanding of the consequences for F1 if a company like Pirelli also decides to pull out.

Because that is what will happen if some teams don't clean up their PR act and work the positive spin: Pirelli will leave, just as Michelin surely left.

One damaging statement can do more harm than a million positive ones in the high-profile arena of F1 tyre marketing. The days of comparing the engineering of one F1 tyre company with another have long gone. We live in a different sort of world. Running a tyre monopoly is not about huge engineering budgets. It's about spending massive amounts of money just to keep the F1 cars running.

F1 forgets that at its peril - unless, of course, it secretly wants to race with its own rock-hard, cheap-to-make, standard-issue tyres, paying for them with monies currently being spent on other (more pleasurable) things.




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#307992
I agree with him, the thing is if there was multiple suppliers (as with Bridgestone and Michelin) you get a massive tyre war that is OK to watch but costs a fortune if you are the tyre manufacturer. So you have a single supplier and you have to live with what they give you just like every other team. As a driver does on track he maximizes the available track to get around the corner faster. Where would it end? a driver not liking a corner so he gets to go faster? so we then have tracks that don't have many corners? So lets turn it into oval racing, what you still have to slow down for a corner. Fine drag racing, what you don't like drag racing Mr Driver? well tell you what earn you million pound wage and suck it up princess.
#307995
I agree with him, the thing is if there was multiple suppliers (as with Bridgestone and Michelin) you get a massive tyre war that is OK to watch but costs a fortune if you are the tyre manufacturer. So you have a single supplier and you have to live with what they give you just like every other team. As a driver does on track he maximizes the available track to get around the corner faster. Where would it end? a driver not liking a corner so he gets to go faster? so we then have tracks that don't have many corners? So lets turn it into oval racing, what you still have to slow down for a corner. Fine drag racing, what you don't like drag racing Mr Driver? well tell you what earn you million pound wage and suck it up princess.


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#307999
I think Pirelli does get bashed around a bit too much, remember they got told to make tyres this way. It must be hard for Pirelli because they enter the sport and want to up their brand image but with drivers, former greats, some in the F1 media and the fans saying bad things about their F1 tyres, can't be good for their brand image at all. Makes you think if Pirelli will be looking to continue long term in the sport.
#308003
That was a really good article. Ive been critical of the tyres but not of Pirelli, they've done exactly what they were asked to do. I think its a shame the cars and drivers dont get to go at the limit, all that effort and expense to get the best driver and car combo and the package is limited by the tyres.
That said the teams are working on understanding the tyres and finding ways to make them work better...so another dimension to the game. AND look at the championship table, we still have the best three drivers at the top. They must be making them work.
#308040
I love Peter Windsor but this article seems a bit dramastical in my opinion.

1) Anyone that follows the sport knows that Pirelli are doing what F1 told them to do and if it tickled their fancy to do so, we'd see a soft tire that could do full race distance in any F1 circuit. it's just not how the sport wants things. The "survey" he mentions is actually eye opening and as we've suspected all along they're trying to make up for a problem with one area of the rule book by manipulating another area of the rule book. Smart. :rolleyes:

2) Complaints tend to be towards F1 regulations, not directly at Pirelli. My long standing beef on Saturday with the pathetic nature of Q3 involves Pirelli but it's not their fault.

3) They have the prettiest set of tires F1 has ever had. I've grown to love the look.
#308042
Agree with WB, Pirelli is involved in most of the criticism but they aren't actually at fault for 'following orders'. I think there are still a few tweaks we could do with the regulations (qualifying tyres for example) which could make the show almost perfect.
#308048
While it's expected for a tire to lose performance as it wears, it has never been as dramatis as in 2012. For Kimi and Fernando to lose so many positions because of it, just not the way the race should be decided. In the past you lost maybe 1 position and you had a fighting chance of keeping it. Not now. That to me is kind of an artificial factor in the race, kind of like the mandatory yellows in NAPCAR. I'm not keen on the whole thing. I think in those two instances, Kimi and Fernando worked hard to get to the positions they did, and deserve a chance at keeping them.
#308050
While it's expected for a tire to lose performance as it wears, it has never been as dramatis as in 2012. For Kimi and Fernando to lose so many positions because of it, just not the way the race should be decided. In the past you lost maybe 1 position and you had a fighting chance of keeping it. Not now. That to me is kind of an artificial factor in the race, kind of like the mandatory yellows in NAPCAR. I'm not keen on the whole thing. I think in those two instances, Kimi and Fernando worked hard to get to the positions they did, and deserve a chance at keeping them.


I completely disagree... it's up to the team to come up with a strategy based on their drivers capability and in those instances Lotus and Ferrari failed. The tires are the same for everyone... so why are we lauding Grosjean and Perez for their drives? How is the situation with the artificiality of tires any different than with DRS or KERS or any other gimmick designed to assist with the problems of overtaking?
#308053
ESPNF1:
Pirelli is aiming to extend its contract as Formula One's tyre supplier beyond the end of the 2013 season, according to Paul Hembery.

The tyre manufacturer has been central to the exciting and unpredictable season this year, with the majority of teams praising its role in providing more entertaining races. Half-way through its three-year deal, thoughts are now turning to 2014 and Hembery said that Pirelli would want to continue but will have to get approval from its board before the deadline in a year's time.

"Our current contract runs until the end of 2013, but we always intended to be in F1 for the medium-to-long term," Hembery told Autosport. "The deadline for the 2014 decision is next June. If the sport wants us to stay and we can convince the board to continue, in light of economic conditions, then our intention is to go forward."

Having mentioned the economic conditions in reference to the Eurozone crisis, Hembery added that there were other markets to take in to considerations outside of Europe.

"We're a global company, leveraged all over the world and depending on how a host of markets perform, not just Europe. F1 is a unique brand, with reach in emerging markets that are important to us."
#308061
ESPNF1:
Pirelli is aiming to extend its contract as Formula One's tyre supplier beyond the end of the 2013 season, according to Paul Hembery.

The tyre manufacturer has been central to the exciting and unpredictable season this year, with the majority of teams praising its role in providing more entertaining races. Half-way through its three-year deal, thoughts are now turning to 2014 and Hembery said that Pirelli would want to continue but will have to get approval from its board before the deadline in a year's time.

"Our current contract runs until the end of 2013, but we always intended to be in F1 for the medium-to-long term," Hembery told Autosport. "The deadline for the 2014 decision is next June. If the sport wants us to stay and we can convince the board to continue, in light of economic conditions, then our intention is to go forward."

Having mentioned the economic conditions in reference to the Eurozone crisis, Hembery added that there were other markets to take in to considerations outside of Europe.

"We're a global company, leveraged all over the world and depending on how a host of markets perform, not just Europe. F1 is a unique brand, with reach in emerging markets that are important to us."


So ESPNF1 posts an article on how Pirelli could leave F1 while at the same time posting another that says Pirelli wants to extend their contract. Precious. :hehe:
#308070
No, the first article was a personal opinion of a site pundit I believe.

Second one is an official news item by the site itself.
#308071
No, the first article was a personal opinion of a site pundit I believe.

Second one is an official news item by the site itself.


I know the difference :wink: that doesn't negate their contradictory nature.

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