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[acosmichippo]

Probably preaching to the choir here, but I found this an interesting point about Monaco.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIT7S4pH ... plcp&t=250

[madbrad]

His statement about Monaco being 43% full throttle is misleading. He's making out like it means the drivers have the throttle 43% open all of the time, when it means that they have them fully open 43% of the time. But by his logic he's saying that it's exciting because they have like a double reserve, So then they should give the cars twice the horsepower that they need for the other tracks? Well who's to say they don't already have 3 or 10 times the power they need? And since he seems to think they don't open the throttle more than 43% at monaco, but they do open them to 100%, then there is no reserve. He sounds like someone who doesn't know the sport at all. I don't think you can compare other series to F1 and his connections are spurious.

[Jabberwocky]

you only have enough horse power when your still wheel spinning at the next corner

[acosmichippo]

His statement about Monaco being 43% full throttle is misleading. He's making out like it means the drivers have the throttle 43% open all of the time, when it means that they have them fully open 43% of the time. But by his logic he's saying that it's exciting because they have like a double reserve, So then they should give the cars twice the horsepower that they need for the other tracks? Well who's to say they don't already have 3 or 10 times the power they need? And since he seems to think they don't open the throttle more than 43% at monaco, but they do open them to 100%, then there is no reserve. He sounds like someone who doesn't know the sport at all. I don't think you can compare other series to F1 and his connections are spurious.

I think you are misunderstanding him. He knows very well that they open up more than 43% throttle. His point is that most of the track requires the skill in finding in the gray area the most throttle the car can handle for that particular turn, as opposed to just turn, point, and slam your foot to the firewall to get the 750hp as soon as possible. He's saying if the cars had significantly more power, it would take more skill to direct that power effectively over a lap, therefore the drivers' ability would be highlighted more.

[madbrad]

It's not a firewall. The engine's in the back! Hahaha just messin'.

[stonemonkey]

His statement about Monaco being 43% full throttle is misleading. He's making out like it means the drivers have the throttle 43% open all of the time, when it means that they have them fully open 43% of the time. But by his logic he's saying that it's exciting because they have like a double reserve, So then they should give the cars twice the horsepower that they need for the other tracks? Well who's to say they don't already have 3 or 10 times the power they need? And since he seems to think they don't open the throttle more than 43% at monaco, but they do open them to 100%, then there is no reserve. He sounds like someone who doesn't know the sport at all. I don't think you can compare other series to F1 and his connections are spurious.

I think you are misunderstanding him. He knows very well that they open up more than 43% throttle. His point is that most of the track requires the skill in finding in the gray area the most throttle the car can handle for that particular turn, as opposed to just turn, point, and slam your foot to the firewall to get the 750hp as soon as possible. He's saying if the cars had significantly more power, it would take more skill to direct that power effectively over a lap, therefore the drivers' ability would be highlighted more.

With pedal mapping I dunno if it'd make much difference to the required driver skill, the power and torque vary with revs which the driver has to deal with and I think that became more pronounced when they changed from the V10s to the V8s so I don't think that going to a more powerful but restricted engine would necesarily mean it takes more skill.

[bud]

Since when was 560kW not enough power to test driver skill

[scotty]

All relative i guess, just compare to the turbo cars... they had probably less than 20% of the aero that modern cars do, and the tyres were crap (i heard even the hardest tyres now offer the same amount of grip as old qualifying tyres!!). Then add in the gate shifter...

[headless]

Since when was 560kW not enough power to test driver skill

bud I love you.

[darwin dali]

Since when was 560kW not enough power to test driver skill

bud I love you.

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