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[What's Burning?]

I don't care who's fault it is. It's sh!tty policy for the fans that go to the GP weekends. It should be changed.

Yeah, but blaming the Dali Lama isn't going to help things get changed.

I wouldn't dare blame our forum Admin it gets angry.

[darwin dali]

I don't care who's fault it is. It's sh!tty policy for the fans that go to the GP weekends. It should be changed.

Yeah, but blaming the Dali Lama isn't going to help things get changed.

I wouldn't dare blame our forum Admin it gets angry.

ehem!
Wrong shade!

[darwin dali]

I don't care who's fault it is. It's sh!tty policy for the fans that go to the GP weekends. It should be changed.

Yeah, but blaming the Dali Lama isn't going to help things get changed.

Dali? DALI? DALI!?!

[andrew]

Dali Dali Dali, the lesser known B-side to Ruby Ruby Ruby by the Kaiser Chiefs.

[Jabberwocky]

Dali Dali Dali, the lesser known B-side to Ruby Ruby Ruby by the Kaiser Chiefs.

Or someone has scratched my favorite Tom Jones album........ MY MY MY DALI DALI DALILA.....she has only gone an had his weetabix

[LewEngBridewell]

All this Pirelli bashing tut tut tut.

Once upon a time, back in the days of Bridgestone, there was held a race in Montreal. It was called the Canadian Grand Prix. Bridgestone's tyres varied widly in the grip and performance offered on this weekend, and we had a wild and crazy race that the fans adored. The fans noticed this, and pointed to the big wigs of the sport and demanded more.

Hence, a brand new dawn, the age of Pirelli, who were given strict orders to make some exciting tyres to help in the quest for relentlessly exciting racing. And here we have it. I, for one, like it. The racing has been top drawer this season.

To those who are passing jibes, be careful what you wish for. Here endeth the first lesson.

[What's Burning?]

Currently the fans are pointing at the pathetic displays in Q3, let's see if they notice that.

[scotty]

Currently the fans are pointing at the pathetic displays in Q3, let's see if they notice that.

Who, Pirelli? Or the teams

[The Second Coming]

Currently the fans are pointing at the pathetic displays in Q3, let's see if they notice that.

I have to say, after watching several eras of F1 over the past 25 years, I don't particularly have an issue with 1.The mandate that Pirelli make short life, fickle tyres and 2.How each range actually performs. With the loss of pitstops, downforce, Ferrari asking Rubens to pull over for Michael...err, wait...wrong conversation. Back on point...losing so many other nuances that added to the spectacle, they needed to be replaced with something that challenged the drivers and made the races interesting to watch. I recall Kimi being asked many years ago how difficult it was to drive these cars and he said, all I do is push buttons and keep my right foot down. He didn't feel all that challenged.

So here we have a host of World Champions all driving fast cars. How can you tell who truly stands above the rest? Well, something like tyre management is a good barometer (not the only measure but certainly tells a part of the story). It can tell which driver within a team is better. It can tell you which Engineer is on his game by moderating the best setup with his driver. It will tell you which designer got the aero and mechanical elements right. The other way to look at it is, if the 2011 and 2012 cars weren't equipped with these tyres, I think we would all be bored stiff. I recall falling asleep on several F1 races in 2010 because there was nothing exciting going on to keep me up and on the edge of my seat.

So, I love this element of drama that the current generation of tyres present, including qualifying. But that's just me.

I'm just saying...

[What's Burning?]

I'm not talking about the racing, I'm simply talking about Q3. Having the teams issues a set of options just for Q3 that they have to return after qualifying is a good idea and would get all cars out there trying to actually put up a best time instead of half the cars staying int he pits simply to conserve a new set of options for the race. There is no blame on Pirelli, the teams will do whatever the rules tell them to do whether they "want" the offered extra set or not.

On Saturday, the fans are getting less racing.

Race day tires will wear out just the same, and the winner will still come down to the best tire strategy rather than the fastest car on Saturday so nothing's lost.

My point as I've said before is if you spend $500 to hand out at a GP for a weekend, then Q3 should be the highlight of Saturday and currently it isn't.

[The Second Coming]

I'm not talking about the racing, I'm simply talking about Q3. Having the teams issues a set of options just for Q3 that they have to return after qualifying is a good idea and would get all cars out there trying to actually put up a best time instead of half the cars staying int he pits simply to conserve a new set of options for the race. There is no blame on Pirelli, the teams will do whatever the rules tell them to do whether they "want" the offered extra set or not.

On Saturday, the fans are getting less racing.

Race day tires will wear out just the same, and the winner will still come down to the best tire strategy rather than the fastest car on Saturday so nothing's lost.

My point as I've said before is if you spend $500 to hand out at a GP for a weekend, then Q3 should be the highlight of Saturday and currently it isn't.

I hear ya. But the reality is, F1/FOM/FIA are going to do what they deem fit despite the 200 ideas per week that we the fans can spit out. So ultimately we have to extract whatever analysis and spectacle we can from what we have. F1 can always be improved but not this year.

I'm just saying...

[What's Burning?]

ESPNF1; Paul Hembery has hinted that Pirelli could look to introduce a fifth tyre compound for the 2013 season.

At present there are just four compounds - hard, medium, soft and supersoft - available for selection, with Pirelli having to nominate two compounds for each of the 20 races this season. Hembery said that there were a number of changes that Pirelli is looking at for next year, but a new option could be to add another compound in order to be able to select tyres that are more suited to the characteristics of each track.

"We want to make some changes, probably structurally to the tyre and possibly to the compounds, maybe a qualifying tyre," Hembery told FM103.3 in Montreal. "Maybe even ask if we can have a few more compounds so that we can maybe adapt our show to each circuit a little bit better. Four compounds for 20 circuits is a tough challenge."

Pirelli test driver Jaime Alguersuari also knew that a fifth compound could be on the cards and said it would make him more attractive for 2013 if it happened.

"It could be (an option)," Alguersuari said. "Nothing has yet been confirmed because we still have so many things to test. We have already done one test and we have some good conclusions, but there are a lot of things to follow, a lot of things we must continue to work on. We will make our opinions for next year. And for me it's great because it gives me the chance to know a product that no else knows. For me, that's fantastic."

a light at the end of the tunnel?

[scotty]

They should introduce 'super-super' softs for places like Monaco, and the qualifying tyres as well.

[darwin dali]

They should have ONE tire for all races (plus intermediate and wet) for ALL races and let the teams figure it out...

[What's Burning?]

They should introduce 'super-super' softs for places like Monaco, and the qualifying tyres as well.

This is the preliminary concept.