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[AKR]

Sorry Bud but it is going to happen soon. I just hope Ferrari is dominate enough to stop McLaren from winning anything this year and the next few just enough time for Mercedes to buy out all of McLaren so therefore once it is Mercedes, if they beat Ferrari I wont care.

These are links that contain the article just so you know its real. They are from January this year as well.

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/17/rumo ... t-mclaren/
and
http://www.autoblog.com/2006/12/15/merc ... t-mclaren/

and the actual articles that make me feel GREAT when i read them.

Rumormill: Mercedes preparing to buy out McLaren
Posted Jan 17th 2008 10:28AM by Noah Joseph
Filed under: Motorsports, Mercedes Benz, Earnings/Financials


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No comment. That's what the Mercedes-Benz communications office had to say in response to rumors that the company is preparing to take over McLaren, the racing team and engineering firm of which Daimler already owns 40%. The report comes from Auto Motor und Sport and suggests not only that Mercedes is considering a buy-out of McLaren, but that the deal has essentially already been hammered out.

The remaining 60% is shared by team principal Ron Dennis and his Saudi business partner Mansour Ojjeh (at 15% each) and Bahraini holding company Mumtalakat, to which Dennis and Ojjeh sold 30% last year. Daimler therefore has the largest interest in McLaren, but if it wanted to take complete control it would have to negotiate with the three other shareholders, or else take controlling interest of 55 or 70% by buying out either Dennis, Ojjeh or the Bahraini partners.

McLaren currently produces the SLR supercar for Mercedes. Although Mercedes is reportedly turning to AMG spin-off HWA for its next supercar, McLaren is meanwhile proceeding with its own P11. Of course, McLaren also fields Mercedes-powered Formula One cars. If Daimler did buy out McLaren, as has long been rumored, it would effectively become the Mercedes factory works team, much like Honda bought BAR and BMW took over Sauber.

and the other article

Mercedes tipped to buy out McLaren
Posted Dec 15th 2006 4:59PM by Noah Joseph
Filed under: Motorsports, DaimlerChrysler, Mercedes Benz, Earnings/Financials

Insiders are predicting that DaimlerChrysler will be buying out McLaren very soon, a move that McLaren chief Ron Dennis apparently welcomes.

Mercedes-Benz and McLaren already have very close relations. For starters, Mercedes is McLaren's engine partners in Formula One. The two also collaborated on the SLR project, which is anticipated to be followed by more supercars in the future. Mercedes also already owns forty percent of the British outfit.

Read more after the jump.

[Source: GrandPrix.com]

The remaining sixty percent is owned by Dennis and his partner Mansour Ojjeh, but that could change in the near future. Insiders say the last remaining obstacle is fiscal timing, meaning that, literally, it's just a matter of time until Mercedes completes the buyout, which some say has already been negotiated, just not yet announced.

Given the two companies' close collaboration, we wouldn't be surprised, especially in light of the increased ownership of F1 teams by major automotive manufacturers. Honda recently bought out what was previously the BAR-Honda team. BMW took over Sauber. Renault bought out the Benetton team just a few seasons ago. Toyota has their own team, and Fiat's baby Ferrari has been running their show since the dawn of F1. The Mercedes buyout of McLaren will only be the latest such move.


hehehehehe soon I'll be celebrating as the true enemy will be destroyed.

[8-ball]

Rumors: made up stories serving to entertain the gullible. I'm sure a Mercedes buyout won't mean a change of major personnel it just means no more Ron Dennis. This whole story stinks of rumors to me I won't believe till an official source confirms it

[McLaren Fan]

Rumour mongering, supposition and gossip. I think we can say with a reasonable amount of certainty that Mercedes probably will buy McLaren in whole or acquire a majority share, but it's far too early to be speculating when and whether or not the terms have been thrashed out. It's also insane for AKR to say that McLaren will be destroyed even when or if the deal goes ahead. Ferrari has changed ownership, being bolstered by FIAT now, but it's still Ferrari; and McLaren was bought from Bruce McLaren's family and Teddy Mayer by Ron Dennis, and it still was McLaren. True, Mercedes could rebrand the team, but McLaren is synonymous with Formula One. Dropping the McLaren name would spit on Bruce McLaren's memory, everything the team achieved and be a sad day for the sport.

[bud]

BMW owns Sauber 100% and whats that teams name again?

[al4x]

i prefer tteams that are works teams myself, i know this isnt possible for smaller teams but for teams like honda, ferrari, mercedes, renault etc i just prefer it myself, and as even if mercedes does buy them out i think few personnel changes will be made

im actually suprised this hasnt happened earlier

[bud]

I prefer the days when F1 was a sport and teams existed just for F1 and not entrants to help sell road cars.
Take Ferrari for example, Enzo selling road cars to fund his F1 team, compare that to teams now where they fund an F1 team to help sell road cars. the meanings bean lost, its reversed!

while now you look at teams like Honda nd Renault who buy out existing F1 teams add their name and claim the glory to help sell cars.

the only REAL F1 teams that still exist in my opinion are Ferrari, McLaren, Williams and could even add Sauber in there they all popped up in this world of ours just for racing just for F1

[madbrad]

It's spelt IMMINENT. I don't mind spelling errors but it looks bad for you when it's in the title.

There are as many articles refuting a buyout as reporting one. You are just choosing the ones you want. It might happen someday, it might not. Eventually, all teams go away. Some last longer than others. They're like people. We live and die. The landscape around us changes constantly. Someday there will be no McLaren, but there will also be no Ferrari someday too. Besisdes, Mercedes, if they do buy the team, would benefit from the use of the name Mclaren and so not bury the name. It would still be called McLaren for many years. Any team needs the big money to exist, and ron is always keen for Mercedes to increase its stake in the team, but it allows takeover, so it's a 2 edged sword. McLaren isn't unique in this. ALL teams face this. When Williams had the BMW works engine, Sir Frank publicly stated he would like BMW to invest in a greater share of the team. BMW could have bought him out, but they instead chose Sauber. It had a lower price tag. Now Williams is in the same position again with Toyota.

[texasmr2]

Umm I honestly cannot think of a polite way to comment toward's your thread AKR!

[7UpJordan]

Even if Mercedes fully bought out McLaren, they would still keep the McLaren name. If they didn't, Bruce would be turning in his grave.

[texasmr2]

Even if Mercedes fully bought out McLaren, they would still keep the McLaren name. If they didn't, Bruce would be turning in his grave.

Very true as Mercedes is alot smarter than that.

[darwin dali]

When Williams had the BMW works engine, Sir Frank publicly stated he would like BMW to invest in a greater share of the team. BMW could have bought him out, but they instead chose Sauber. It had a lower price tag. Now Williams is in the same position again with Toyota.

I think the price was not a factor or only a minor one. There were other things wrong with Williams or better with Sauber that made BMW go for Sauber.

[bud]

When Williams had the BMW works engine, Sir Frank publicly stated he would like BMW to invest in a greater share of the team. BMW could have bought him out, but they instead chose Sauber. It had a lower price tag. Now Williams is in the same position again with Toyota.

I think the price was not a factor or only a minor one. There were other things wrong with Williams or better with Sauber that made BMW go for Sauber.

Yeah with Williams DR Mario wouldnt have had 100% control

[darwin dali]

Their relationship was already strained, so that was one point.

[madbrad]

I was under the impression that Sir Frank wanted to retire(implying giving up all control) and that's why he wanted his current works supplier to increase their stake.

[AKR]

Madbrad wrote : It's spelt IMMINENT. I don't mind spelling errors but it looks bad for you when it's in the title.

My first langauge is ITALIAN, so give me a break. Its not my fault the English language has SPELLING. Why can't you just write how the word is said like in Italian, Spanish, Croatian and Slovenian? *LOL*

By the way I think a Benetton Job will happen. Ie Benetton became Renault and basicaly McLaren will become Mercedes.